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Facebook Ads Conversion and Optimization Breakdown Q4 2017

Published on: December 7 2022 by Nick Peroni

Facebook Ads Conversion and Optimization Breakdown Q4 2017

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00:00:01 00:00:07 hey what's up econ vampires Nick here
00:00:04 00:00:10 and I'm making a video today I have my
00:00:07 00:00:11 whiteboard out it's not actually hanging
00:00:10 00:00:12 up on the wall I just moved into this
00:00:11 00:00:15 apartment but I wanted to get the
00:00:12 00:00:17 whiteboard out and just go over a few
00:00:15 00:00:19 things it's been a little bit since I've
00:00:17 00:00:22 done like a new type of training on
00:00:19 00:00:24 Facebook ads or anything like that and a
00:00:22 00:00:27 lot of times I do the screencast for
00:00:24 00:00:28 horde videos but for this one I really
00:00:27 00:00:31 want to tok about some of the new
00:00:28 00:00:33 conversion objectives and the learning
00:00:31 00:00:35 phase and optimization of Facebook Ads
00:00:33 00:00:37 and I thought that using the whiteboard
00:00:35 00:00:39 is a really good way that I could draw
00:00:37 00:00:41 some of this out and kind of go over
00:00:39 00:00:43 some of these new processes that I know
00:00:41 00:00:46 people are curious about wondering about
00:00:43 00:00:48 how does it affect my ads how does it
00:00:46 00:00:50 affect testing you know these types of
00:00:48 00:00:52 things and so I find this information to
00:00:50 00:00:55 be the most important a lot of times for
00:00:52 00:00:57 new people getting into the group and so
00:00:55 00:00:59 I just want to walk through this and
00:00:57 00:01:01 kind of start with you know when you're
00:00:59 00:01:05 looking at your ads and you're getting
00:01:01 00:01:08 ready to test ads so you have a new ad
00:01:05 00:01:12 right and when you start testing ads
00:01:08 00:01:18 Facebook now has something called the
00:01:12 00:01:21 learning phase right all right now this
00:01:18 00:01:22 is actually not new it's new in the
00:01:21 00:01:24 sense that we can see it now
00:01:22 00:01:26 Facebook is letting us know hey your ad
00:01:24 00:01:29 is in the learning phase but it's not
00:01:26 00:01:31 new in the sense that it's not it's
00:01:29 00:01:33 always been part of the algorithm right
00:01:31 00:01:36 Facebook when you have when you have
00:01:33 00:01:37 your ad and your ad is going to start
00:01:36 00:01:39 getting served to people here's
00:01:37 00:01:40 basically what the learning phase means
00:01:39 00:01:45 right
00:01:40 00:01:47 you have your audience okay so this is
00:01:45 00:01:50 why targeting is so important because
00:01:47 00:01:52 when you go to whatever product you have
00:01:50 00:01:54 remember everything everything in
00:01:52 00:01:56 e-commerce comes down to your product
00:01:54 00:02:01 audience match okay so
00:01:56 00:02:04 when you're looking at this ad right
00:02:01 00:02:05 here this ad is all about product
00:02:04 00:02:08 audience match that's everything that's
00:02:05 00:02:10 your most important job before you run
00:02:08 00:02:12 an ad is doing the research to find a
00:02:10 00:02:14 good product that matches an audience or
00:02:12 00:02:16 even we've toked about that we toked
00:02:14 00:02:18 about points that you can focus on in
00:02:16 00:02:19 your offer and things that you can
00:02:18 00:02:22 choose and maybe I'll circle back to
00:02:19 00:02:24 this at the end but right now I'm going
00:02:22 00:02:26 to tok about what happens when you set
00:02:24 00:02:27 this ad up and it's going through the
00:02:26 00:02:30 learning phase right you have your
00:02:27 00:02:40 audience that you picked with Facebook
00:02:30 00:02:43 so okay so you have the audience that
00:02:40 00:02:45 you selected when you went through and
00:02:43 00:02:47 you started doing your targeting so
00:02:45 00:02:49 based on whatever your product the
00:02:47 00:02:51 audience matches here you take that
00:02:49 00:02:53 audience and that's what you're using in
00:02:51 00:02:55 your targeting now Facebook is going in
00:02:53 00:02:58 the learning phase what facebook is
00:02:55 00:03:00 going to do is whatever you know these
00:02:58 00:03:02 brackets that you're giving it basically
00:03:00 00:03:04 how does the entire Facebook you know
00:03:02 00:03:06 billions of people you're giving you the
00:03:04 00:03:08 bracket of people to look at right here
00:03:06 00:03:10 based on the targeting that you did so
00:03:08 00:03:13 Facebook now depending on how large your
00:03:10 00:03:15 audience is or how targeted or how good
00:03:13 00:03:16 a product the audience match is all
00:03:15 00:03:19 going to kind of affect the learning
00:03:16 00:03:21 phase right because now Facebook has to
00:03:19 00:03:25 do is it has to take the the targeting
00:03:21 00:03:29 that you gave it and has to go start
00:03:25 00:03:31 looking for those people within that
00:03:29 00:03:33 audience that things are going to need
00:03:31 00:03:35 to convert based on your objective here
00:03:33 00:03:37 so another thing that's really important
00:03:35 00:03:39 here is whatever your conversion
00:03:37 00:03:41 objective is right we're toking about
00:03:39 00:03:44 conversion so learning phase matters for
00:03:41 00:03:50 conversions so whatever your conversion
00:03:44 00:03:52 objective is it's also going to feed
00:03:50 00:03:55 into the learning phase as Facebook goes
00:03:52 00:03:57 out with its algorithm and tries to find
00:03:55 00:04:00 the people that convert okay now an
00:03:57 00:04:01 important principle number one
00:04:00 00:04:03 one of the first principles that we need
00:04:01 00:04:07 to understand here is when it comes to
00:04:03 00:04:07 finding conversions okay
00:04:09 00:04:13 Facebook is always going to go out and
00:04:11 00:04:14 try to find the cheapest conversions
00:04:13 00:04:16 first all right
00:04:14 00:04:19 regardless of whatever your bid is so
00:04:16 00:04:21 whether you were spending you know five
00:04:19 00:04:23 dollars a day here all the way up to
00:04:21 00:04:24 anything it doesn't matter one hundred
00:04:23 00:04:25 dollars a day we're toking about
00:04:24 00:04:27 testing right so when you're spending
00:04:25 00:04:29 five dollars a day all the way up to
00:04:27 00:04:31 hundred dollars a day when you go up
00:04:29 00:04:37 here Facebook is always going to find
00:04:31 00:04:40 the cheapest conversions based on your
00:04:37 00:04:42 bid to audience okay cheapest
00:04:40 00:04:47 conversions because what Facebook does
00:04:42 00:04:49 is this is so it has a 24-hour every day
00:04:47 00:04:51 right 24-hour period every day based on
00:04:49 00:04:54 your time zone so what it's going to do
00:04:51 00:04:55 is at the beginning of that 24 hours
00:04:54 00:04:57 it's going to look at whatever your
00:04:55 00:05:00 budget is right here and it's going to
00:04:57 00:05:03 determine how many conversions it should
00:05:00 00:05:05 go out and try to find that day based on
00:05:03 00:05:07 your budget and then it resets over 24
00:05:05 00:05:11 hours which is why a lot of times you
00:05:07 00:05:13 hear starting your ads or you know at
00:05:11 00:05:15 the 12 a.m. or can be the best because
00:05:13 00:05:18 that's at the beginning of the 24-hour
00:05:15 00:05:21 period and so Facebook resets and gets a
00:05:18 00:05:23 chance to go and try to find how many of
00:05:21 00:05:25 the cheapest conversions can I get for
00:05:23 00:05:28 this budget with this audience in this
00:05:25 00:05:29 24 hour period okay so it's always going
00:05:28 00:05:31 to go out and try to find those cheap
00:05:29 00:05:34 conversions and it's always going to do
00:05:31 00:05:37 it based on your 24 hour period
00:05:34 00:05:39 now what happens from there is the
00:05:37 00:05:43 learning phase is going to keep going
00:05:39 00:05:46 until you get enough conversions based
00:05:43 00:05:47 on your objective right here right so if
00:05:46 00:05:50 your conversion objective is purchased
00:05:47 00:05:52 and you're spending the money that what
00:05:50 00:05:54 Facebook has told us now is it needs 50
00:05:52 00:05:58 conversions a week right so the next
00:05:54 00:06:00 stage of all this is basically
00:05:58 00:06:06 optimization for the learning phase to
00:06:00 00:06:06 end you need to get to optimization
00:06:06 00:06:13 this is what monks hate when that
00:06:10 00:06:16 happens this is what marks the end of
00:06:13 00:06:18 the learning phase okay so this ends
00:06:16 00:06:24 when you hit this right here and this
00:06:18 00:06:28 requires this requires 50 conversions
00:06:24 00:06:30 based on your objective here so what I'm
00:06:28 00:06:31 going to subjective it is purchase and
00:06:30 00:06:34 you got to get 50 purchased conversions
00:06:31 00:06:37 all right and now that Facebook at that
00:06:34 00:06:41 if you do this within 50 conversions
00:06:37 00:06:44 within one week all right
00:06:41 00:06:47 that marks Facebook has optimized now
00:06:44 00:06:49 and so your ad set is now optimized for
00:06:47 00:06:51 being able to scale for being able to
00:06:49 00:06:53 basically here's what happens when you
00:06:51 00:06:54 get optimized and your conversions are
00:06:53 00:06:58 optimized there's two things that are
00:06:54 00:07:00 gonna happen okay number one is it's
00:06:58 00:07:02 gonna allow you to be able to scale and
00:07:00 00:07:04 number two what's going to happen is
00:07:02 00:07:06 that you're going to normalize right
00:07:04 00:07:07 basically so during the learning phase
00:07:06 00:07:10 you can expect some fluctuation in your
00:07:07 00:07:12 cost per purchase or your cost per
00:07:10 00:07:13 action whatever your objective is here
00:07:12 00:07:16 that you're trying to go off low cost
00:07:13 00:07:18 per lead so you know you're you're gonna
00:07:16 00:07:19 have some fluctuation here while it's in
00:07:18 00:07:21 the learning phase there's going to be a
00:07:19 00:07:24 little bit of this trying to figure out
00:07:21 00:07:26 as Facebook of the school and looks for
00:07:24 00:07:28 your audience but once you get here and
00:07:26 00:07:30 your optimized you should get a much
00:07:28 00:07:32 more about the thing okay so you should
00:07:30 00:07:34 be ready for scale at this point because
00:07:32 00:07:36 you're getting up enough conversions in
00:07:34 00:07:38 a week for Facebook to understand
00:07:36 00:07:43 exactly through your audiences and at
00:07:38 00:07:45 the same time you are will call your CPA
00:07:43 00:07:48 because I don't know what your your
00:07:45 00:07:52 objective is here right so your cost per
00:07:48 00:07:54 actually here should normalize right it
00:07:52 00:07:55 should it should be able to go down that
00:07:54 00:07:57 way you can start scaling because
00:07:55 00:07:58 obviously the as you scale into a larger
00:07:57 00:08:00 audience
00:07:58 00:08:02 this is naturally going to go up because
00:08:00 00:08:04 of audience burnout but in the beginning
00:08:02 00:08:06 you should be looking for that cost
00:08:04 00:08:07 fraction to normalize or drop a little
00:08:06 00:08:09 bit
00:08:07 00:08:10 level for your CPM to maybe drop a
00:08:09 00:08:13 little bit once you're optimizing
00:08:10 00:08:17 Facebook knows exactly who it's going
00:08:13 00:08:20 after so this is this is what is going
00:08:17 00:08:21 on now with the learning phase so here's
00:08:20 00:08:24 what happens right now this brings up
00:08:21 00:08:26 some questions what happens first of all
00:08:24 00:08:29 with the conversion attribution window
00:08:26 00:08:31 right because well we when we look at
00:08:29 00:08:41 this another thing that affects this is
00:08:31 00:08:43 the conversion attribution window sorry
00:08:41 00:08:45 this markers dying so conversion
00:08:43 00:08:47 attribution window basically there's two
00:08:45 00:08:50 the two that really matter in my opinion
00:08:47 00:08:54 there's the one-day click and then
00:08:50 00:08:56 there's the seven-day click or view
00:08:54 00:09:04 right it's the one-day click one-day
00:08:56 00:09:08 view 17 clip 1 debut ok so here's what
00:09:04 00:09:10 this means basically if you said I think
00:09:08 00:09:12 most times with retargeting and stuff
00:09:10 00:09:13 unless you're running bigger budgets if
00:09:12 00:09:15 you're running smaller budgets you
00:09:13 00:09:16 probably want to be here because what
00:09:15 00:09:19 these mean these are conversion
00:09:16 00:09:21 attribution windows right windows is
00:09:19 00:09:23 like the aqua aqua bull word here
00:09:21 00:09:25 because what happens is this is giving
00:09:23 00:09:27 you excuse me
00:09:25 00:09:30 this is giving you a window on which to
00:09:27 00:09:32 optimize in the learning phase right so
00:09:30 00:09:34 understanding this it looks at this ok
00:09:32 00:09:37 when you look at a one-day click that
00:09:34 00:09:40 means once somebody clicks your ad one
00:09:37 00:09:43 day after okay
00:09:40 00:09:46 once somebody clicks your ad one day
00:09:43 00:09:49 after Facebook is using this time period
00:09:46 00:09:51 for your conversion attribution window
00:09:49 00:09:53 so basically that would mean if you're
00:09:51 00:09:55 setting it like this within this time
00:09:53 00:09:58 period here is where you're giving your
00:09:55 00:09:59 50 conversions right and that's how
00:09:58 00:10:01 you're telling Facebook to optimize
00:09:59 00:10:02 based on those 50 conversions you're
00:10:01 00:10:05 getting within the
00:10:02 00:10:07 they click window here if it's a 7-day
00:10:05 00:10:11 click then basically after the click you
00:10:07 00:10:16 have 7 days for the 50 conversions
00:10:11 00:10:19 window hopefully that makes sense
00:10:16 00:10:21 ok so the way I look at it is like what
00:10:19 00:10:24 is your natural sales cycle going to be
00:10:21 00:10:25 well most of our sales a lot of times we
00:10:24 00:10:28 all know there's a big drop-off rate
00:10:25 00:10:30 from when people are going right before
00:10:28 00:10:36 going out of the store so they're going
00:10:30 00:10:40 at the product page and then to checkout
00:10:36 00:10:42 ok and so we know already that even on a
00:10:40 00:10:45 really great store you might be getting
00:10:42 00:10:48 maybe on a fantastik store you could be
00:10:45 00:10:50 getting at the highest let's just say my
00:10:48 00:10:52 capacity would be a 10 percent checkout
00:10:50 00:10:53 conversion rate that's that's fantastik
00:10:52 00:10:55 right and that's a really big number
00:10:53 00:10:57 most people are hovering down around
00:10:55 00:11:00 maybe 1 to 2 percent okay but either way
00:10:57 00:11:03 there's a massive drop-off here of
00:11:00 00:11:05 abandoned carts so you know you're just
00:11:03 00:11:06 going one day quick you better be
00:11:05 00:11:09 driving enough front-end traffic that
00:11:06 00:11:11 you're 1 to 2 percent here is getting
00:11:09 00:11:14 you the 50 conversions that you need
00:11:11 00:11:16 right so that all comes down to we'll
00:11:14 00:11:17 look at some numbers in a minute here
00:11:16 00:11:20 but that just comes down to numbers
00:11:17 00:11:22 right if you're getting a conversion at
00:11:20 00:11:24 $8 say your conversion for your cost per
00:11:22 00:11:25 purchase their conversion objective is
00:11:24 00:11:28 purchased and you're getting a
00:11:25 00:11:30 conversion at $8 right well what that
00:11:28 00:11:33 means that if you need 50 conversions
00:11:30 00:11:36 you know that 50 times 8 is 400 right so
00:11:33 00:11:40 $400 a day is basically what you would
00:11:36 00:11:42 be needing to spend to be getting enough
00:11:40 00:11:44 conversions here but that's not even
00:11:42 00:11:48 factoring in okay so that's factoring in
00:11:44 00:11:51 50 conversions is gonna cost you $400
00:11:48 00:11:53 right at $8 a conversion but then you
00:11:51 00:11:54 need to figure out 50 conversions is
00:11:53 00:11:57 only going to be one that 2% of your
00:11:54 00:11:59 traffic right so say 50 50 conversions
00:11:57 00:12:01 is one percent of your traffic let's
00:11:59 00:12:03 just look at this say 50 conversions
00:12:01 00:12:07 this is backwards algebra formula right
00:12:03 00:12:10 so say one percent equals 50 conversions
00:12:07 00:12:13 and you want to figure out what that
00:12:10 00:12:13 means for total traffic right so one
00:12:13 00:12:16 person
00:12:13 00:12:18 50 conversions well you just reversed it
00:12:16 00:12:21 basically that means 50 is one percent
00:12:18 00:12:23 of a total 100 percent number right so
00:12:21 00:12:26 in order for that to make sense you just
00:12:23 00:12:28 add zeros so 10 percent will be five
00:12:26 00:12:30 hundred and a hundred percent would be
00:12:28 00:12:35 five thousand so that means you're
00:12:30 00:12:37 getting five thousand visitors a day to
00:12:35 00:12:41 equal one percent conversion rate of 50
00:12:37 00:12:43 conversions to get your you know that's
00:12:41 00:12:45 what you're spending right so that would
00:12:43 00:12:47 be what you would be kind of reverse
00:12:45 00:12:49 engineering you figure out okay one day
00:12:47 00:12:50 click window if I've been running long
00:12:49 00:12:52 enough to know I'm giving a dollar cost
00:12:50 00:12:54 per purchase and I need to get 50
00:12:52 00:12:56 conversions to optimize on this one day
00:12:54 00:12:58 click I know that I need and I'm only
00:12:56 00:12:59 getting a one percent conversion rate on
00:12:58 00:13:01 my store I know that I need to be
00:12:59 00:13:04 getting five thousand visitors a day
00:13:01 00:13:06 right and so how much are you spending
00:13:04 00:13:08 cost per click to get those five
00:13:06 00:13:10 thousand visitors right so like you want
00:13:08 00:13:14 to make sure that it makes sense the
00:13:10 00:13:16 whole way through because I mean your
00:13:14 00:13:18 cost per click is got to be really low
00:13:16 00:13:19 to make it work at that number right in
00:13:18 00:13:22 to be able to drive that kind of traffic
00:13:19 00:13:23 to get that kind of conversion rate but
00:13:22 00:13:25 of course then if you look at the
00:13:23 00:13:27 seven-day conversion window right now
00:13:25 00:13:29 you're looking at something a little bit
00:13:27 00:13:31 different because if you're looking at
00:13:29 00:13:34 seven days now you don't necessarily
00:13:31 00:13:36 have to be capitalizing just on you know
00:13:34 00:13:39 that only that one percent conversion on
00:13:36 00:13:41 your store because you can be
00:13:39 00:13:43 capitalizing on the retargeting and
00:13:41 00:13:45 possibly email marketing that you're
00:13:43 00:13:47 doing is bringing people back over a
00:13:45 00:13:50 seven day period to increase your
00:13:47 00:13:53 conversion rate and therefore less
00:13:50 00:13:55 visitors to be able to get the same
00:13:53 00:13:57 attribution of seven days but again
00:13:55 00:13:58 that's going to come down to how fast
00:13:57 00:14:00 you want scale how much money you want
00:13:58 00:14:01 to spend how hard you want to push I
00:14:00 00:14:04 hope that makes sense because that's
00:14:01 00:14:05 just really kind of reverse engineering
00:14:04 00:14:06 and looking at what these conversion
00:14:05 00:14:09 attributes
00:14:06 00:14:12 windows mean in terms of optimizing and
00:14:09 00:14:13 skimming for the ads that you were
00:14:12 00:14:18 running all right
00:14:13 00:14:20 so when you're looking at optimization
00:14:18 00:14:23 the other question this brings up now is
00:14:20 00:14:25 what if you're running an ad and over
00:14:23 00:14:26 the course of that one week you're
00:14:25 00:14:28 running so let's just say where most
00:14:26 00:14:30 people are probably going to fall right
00:14:28 00:14:32 I do you guys know the e comment hires
00:14:30 00:14:35 to me is mostly about helping the people
00:14:32 00:14:37 who are new who are figuring it out or
00:14:35 00:14:39 struggling getting started helping you
00:14:37 00:14:41 understand exactly how it works right so
00:14:39 00:14:43 for the seven-day click is probably
00:14:41 00:14:45 where most people want to be at unless
00:14:43 00:14:47 you're already pushing big budgets right
00:14:45 00:14:50 and so if you're running the seven-day
00:14:47 00:14:52 quick conversion window on an ad and you
00:14:50 00:14:54 get to the end of a week right and you
00:14:52 00:14:56 haven't hit your 50 conversions yet so
00:14:54 00:15:00 what does that mean well it means that
00:14:56 00:15:02 Facebook has not optimized then if you
00:15:00 00:15:04 got to the end of that week and you
00:15:02 00:15:06 didn't get 50 conversions right you're
00:15:04 00:15:09 you're less than 50 conversions here
00:15:06 00:15:17 which would be this sign right less than
00:15:09 00:15:20 50 in the week then you're not optimized
00:15:17 00:15:23 right so what does this mean if if this
00:15:20 00:15:26 is where you fall into it
00:15:23 00:15:28 couple things okay number one it means
00:15:26 00:15:30 the learning days is going to end okay
00:15:28 00:15:32 so the learning pace is still going to
00:15:30 00:15:33 be over either way it's just you are
00:15:32 00:15:37 going to be over in your favor
00:15:33 00:15:39 or if this happens here then what's
00:15:37 00:15:42 going to happen basically is it's just
00:15:39 00:15:43 going to restart the learning phase back
00:15:42 00:15:45 here so you're just going to fall back
00:15:43 00:15:46 into the learning phase it's going to
00:15:45 00:15:48 restart at the end of that one week
00:15:46 00:15:50 period because that's the given that
00:15:48 00:15:52 Facebook has given us it needs 50
00:15:50 00:15:54 conversions in a week to you know to do
00:15:52 00:15:56 that so what happens here if you didn't
00:15:54 00:15:58 get that 50 conversions in a week well
00:15:56 00:16:00 you need to figure out what was it a
00:15:58 00:16:02 matter of happening right was it a
00:16:00 00:16:06 matter of the budget okay that could be
00:16:02 00:16:07 the first thing maybe you've got a lot
00:16:06 00:16:09 of conversions but you just
00:16:07 00:16:11 get the full 50 right maybe you got 30
00:16:09 00:16:14 conversions a week maybe you're only
00:16:11 00:16:16 spending let's say you're spending $10 a
00:16:14 00:16:19 day right which is $70 a week and let's
00:16:16 00:16:22 say you're getting conversions at $6 a
00:16:19 00:16:26 cost per purchase right so 70 divided by
00:16:22 00:16:30 six I mean that's really not even it's
00:16:26 00:16:34 almost 12 its 11 right so say you got 11
00:16:30 00:16:35 conversions on that on your budget so
00:16:34 00:16:37 that's even lower than I was saying
00:16:35 00:16:40 that's waiting lower than 50 that's only
00:16:37 00:16:42 1/5 of the way there but you're getting
00:16:40 00:16:44 conversions at a profitable cost right
00:16:42 00:16:45 so Facebook hasn't been able this goes
00:16:44 00:16:47 back to the microwave set theory I
00:16:45 00:16:50 toked about this in my video they spoke
00:16:47 00:16:52 at 5.8 $5 a day right so you're running
00:16:50 00:16:55 you had $5 a day and you're getting cost
00:16:52 00:16:57 per purchase at $7 so you're only
00:16:55 00:17:00 getting a purchase basically every other
00:16:57 00:17:03 day and over the course of a week you've
00:17:00 00:17:05 spent $35 and you're getting it for 7
00:17:03 00:17:07 seed had 5 conversions right that's
00:17:05 00:17:08 still a good cost per conversion no
00:17:07 00:17:09 matter what your budget remember
00:17:08 00:17:11 Facebook's good cool I'll try to find
00:17:09 00:17:13 the cheapest conversions for you however
00:17:11 00:17:15 the point being here is that you're not
00:17:13 00:17:17 going to be it would optimized for scale
00:17:15 00:17:19 right and you're probably going to have
00:17:17 00:17:20 fluctuations in your cost per purchase
00:17:19 00:17:22 if you keep running at that level
00:17:20 00:17:25 because Facebook is not optimized where
00:17:22 00:17:27 it needs to be here in the learning
00:17:25 00:17:29 phase to be able to really hit direct
00:17:27 00:17:31 with what you want to do so what that
00:17:29 00:17:33 means is you need to figure out where
00:17:31 00:17:38 you need to be spending that right so
00:17:33 00:17:40 you need to look at your cost per
00:17:38 00:17:42 purchase and if it's profitable and if
00:17:40 00:17:44 it's working then what you do is you
00:17:42 00:17:46 take your cost per purchase like in that
00:17:44 00:17:49 situation for example you're getting a
00:17:46 00:17:52 cost per purchase of $7 and so what do
00:17:49 00:17:53 you need to do to figure out 50
00:17:52 00:17:55 conversions a week to be able to
00:17:53 00:17:57 optimize and scale and break through
00:17:55 00:17:59 that learning phase well if you're
00:17:57 00:18:01 getting them for $7 and you need 50
00:17:59 00:18:03 conversions and you just take the cost
00:18:01 00:18:08 per purchase right times its the
00:18:03 00:18:10 conversions and so in this case it's $7
00:18:08 00:18:11 times 50 that means it's three hundred
00:18:10 00:18:14 and fifty dollars that's what we need to
00:18:11 00:18:15 be spending in a week to hit our 50
00:18:14 00:18:18 conversions goal and so once we
00:18:15 00:18:21 this number here we take it and we
00:18:18 00:18:23 divided by seven days right and this
00:18:21 00:18:25 number is going to give you what you
00:18:23 00:18:28 should be spending a day so when you
00:18:25 00:18:30 take that $7 cost for purchase times 50
00:18:28 00:18:32 is three hundred and fifty dollars right
00:18:30 00:18:37 divided by seven days means that you're
00:18:32 00:18:40 spending $50 a day to optimize where you
00:18:37 00:18:42 need to optimize for being able to scale
00:18:40 00:18:43 right it doesn't mean look there's
00:18:42 00:18:45 there's two different things here it
00:18:43 00:18:47 doesn't mean that you can't still test
00:18:45 00:18:50 the way that you want to test in here
00:18:47 00:18:51 right when it comes to your testing you
00:18:50 00:18:53 can this is a big misconception here
00:18:51 00:18:55 people are like oh the death of the five
00:18:53 00:18:57 to ten dollar ad set well you can still
00:18:55 00:18:59 test it five to ten dollars a day if you
00:18:57 00:19:01 want to it's just you were a couple
00:18:59 00:19:03 things that we toked about right like
00:19:01 00:19:06 when you're testing and you're looking
00:19:03 00:19:10 at testing right if you're testing at
00:19:06 00:19:12 five dollars a day then add an average
00:19:10 00:19:14 cost per purchase of eight dollars right
00:19:12 00:19:16 which is this kind of fair was standard
00:19:14 00:19:18 across you know marketing seven dollars
00:19:16 00:19:19 just say seven dollars right so at an
00:19:18 00:19:21 average cost of purchase of seven
00:19:19 00:19:23 dollars you're not going to be anywhere
00:19:21 00:19:25 near your 50 conversions a week that's
00:19:23 00:19:30 just what you need to understand at five
00:19:25 00:19:33 dollars a day times seven days you're
00:19:30 00:19:35 only spending $35 a week right you're
00:19:33 00:19:38 spending $35 a week so the only way you
00:19:35 00:19:40 get 50 conversions in a week now long
00:19:38 00:19:42 wait ahead right again this is this is
00:19:40 00:19:44 still testing we're not even assuming
00:19:42 00:19:44 winners yet but the only way on a
00:19:44 00:19:47 winning ad
00:19:44 00:19:50 you can get that is if you took 30
00:19:47 00:19:53 divided 35 divided by 50 which is going
00:19:50 00:19:56 to be less than one right it's going to
00:19:53 00:19:58 be odd now it's going to be it would be
00:19:56 00:19:59 one point something it would be really
00:19:58 00:20:02 low though basically you'd be getting
00:19:59 00:20:03 conversions for like a dollar right or
00:20:02 00:20:04 less it would have to be less than a
00:20:03 00:20:07 dollar right
00:20:04 00:20:09 so it'd be conversions about 70 cents so
00:20:07 00:20:11 anyway so you just need to understand
00:20:09 00:20:13 that that's your feedback loop right the
00:20:11 00:20:16 amount of time it's gonna take for you
00:20:13 00:20:18 to get the feedback is a whole week but
00:20:16 00:20:20 keep it in a whole week your feedback
00:20:18 00:20:22 may only be like five to seven
00:20:20 00:20:24 conversions five to ten conversions
00:20:22 00:20:25 would be good and so you're not going to
00:20:24 00:20:28 be there yet you're gonna have to
00:20:25 00:20:30 increase the budget just to be able to
00:20:28 00:20:31 get to a feedback loop that's going to
00:20:30 00:20:33 allow you to start seeing if you can
00:20:31 00:20:38 reach this 50 conversions right even at
00:20:33 00:20:41 ten dollars a day times seven days
00:20:38 00:20:44 you're now at seventy dollars a week
00:20:41 00:20:46 right so we're getting better on a
00:20:44 00:20:48 feedback loop here because we have more
00:20:46 00:20:50 money that we're spending within a week
00:20:48 00:20:53 to see what happens but still even this
00:20:50 00:20:56 right you're you're still going to need
00:20:53 00:20:57 fifty divided by 70 you're still going
00:20:56 00:20:59 to be getting super low conversions I
00:20:57 00:21:01 mean you'd be getting conversions for
00:20:59 00:21:03 like a dollar twenty-five at this point
00:21:01 00:21:05 to be able to hit this number so still
00:21:03 00:21:07 then we're only still not even practikal
00:21:05 00:21:09 all right so you just need to understand
00:21:07 00:21:12 with testing you can still test these
00:21:09 00:21:14 variables it's just it you're testing
00:21:12 00:21:17 you think you're out what your average
00:21:14 00:21:19 cost per purchases here on your feedback
00:21:17 00:21:22 loop to see what's my cost per purchase
00:21:19 00:21:24 and then to determine what I need to
00:21:22 00:21:27 raise my budget to to be able to fit
00:21:24 00:21:29 Facebook's optimization and scale all
00:21:27 00:21:30 right now another thing that you have to
00:21:29 00:21:33 here that's if you're getting
00:21:30 00:21:36 conversions and you're your ad is
00:21:33 00:21:38 working it's just not falling within the
00:21:36 00:21:43 optimization phase of what Facebook
00:21:38 00:21:44 needs okay if you're not getting
00:21:43 00:21:46 conversion if you're testing is not
00:21:44 00:21:49 working and things are just right it's
00:21:46 00:21:52 just not working for you that another
00:21:49 00:21:55 thing to consider here of course is just
00:21:52 00:21:56 changing the ad creative or like these
00:21:55 00:21:59 are things that you
00:21:56 00:22:01 consider based on and added somewhat
00:21:59 00:22:02 working but just not quite there yet for
00:22:01 00:22:05 you alright
00:22:02 00:22:13 the I creative or the targeting right
00:22:05 00:22:15 broader targeting these are all things
00:22:13 00:22:17 that just go back to the same thing of
00:22:15 00:22:18 is your product really women right are
00:22:17 00:22:20 you getting prevents the biggest
00:22:18 00:22:22 question number one are you getting
00:22:20 00:22:23 convergence and just not enough of that
00:22:22 00:22:25 or are you really not even getting
00:22:23 00:22:27 conversions okay because then if you're
00:22:25 00:22:30 really not even getting convergent this
00:22:27 00:22:31 becomes just a matter of your product
00:22:30 00:22:33 right your ad creative your target
00:22:31 00:22:36 anymore or something along those lines
00:22:33 00:22:38 that you are not getting the conversions
00:22:36 00:22:40 that you need all right now another
00:22:38 00:22:43 thing that you could do though is say
00:22:40 00:22:45 you're getting the conversions or say
00:22:43 00:22:46 you're getting converts if you're
00:22:45 00:22:48 getting really good traffic or you're
00:22:46 00:22:50 getting conversions but again you're
00:22:48 00:22:51 just not here and maybe you don't have
00:22:50 00:22:54 the money or maybe you're not willing to
00:22:51 00:22:56 take the risk top your budget another
00:22:54 00:22:58 thing you could try doing is changing
00:22:56 00:23:01 the conversion objective all right so
00:22:58 00:23:03 that's another thing because some
00:23:01 00:23:05 conversion objectives are easier to hit
00:23:03 00:23:11 than others right like instead of
00:23:05 00:23:14 purchase maybe you test add the cart and
00:23:11 00:23:16 maybe the Add to Cart conversion maybe
00:23:14 00:23:17 you were getting purchases for seven
00:23:16 00:23:19 dollars which you're getting you had the
00:23:17 00:23:21 carts for like two dollars and so you
00:23:19 00:23:23 can run a budget on add the carts and
00:23:21 00:23:25 you can still be profitable and still
00:23:23 00:23:26 set up your retargeting and so like
00:23:25 00:23:29 these are other ways that you can look
00:23:26 00:23:31 at changing to try to fit the
00:23:29 00:23:33 optimization window that Facebook is
00:23:31 00:23:37 toking about all right so this is just
00:23:33 00:23:39 some some kind of kind of some basic
00:23:37 00:23:42 math stuff that I wanted to go over and
00:23:39 00:23:44 make sure that everybody in the group
00:23:42 00:23:46 has a very clear understanding because
00:23:44 00:23:47 there's been so many things like oh does
00:23:46 00:23:49 you know the microwave set theory still
00:23:47 00:23:51 work yes but yes of course of course it
00:23:49 00:23:53 still works because at the end of the
00:23:51 00:23:55 day what we're looking at here in the
00:23:53 00:23:57 learning phase is no different Facebook
00:23:55 00:23:58 has always had a learning phase it's
00:23:57 00:24:01 always been there basically
00:23:58 00:24:02 algorithm needs to learn within the
00:24:01 00:24:05 windows it gives you they start its
00:24:02 00:24:07 targeting to optimize the difference is
00:24:05 00:24:09 that the conversion window went up to 50
00:24:07 00:24:12 conversions within one week it used to
00:24:09 00:24:14 be 25 and the other thing is that now
00:24:12 00:24:16 Facebook is letting you know where you
00:24:14 00:24:18 are in the learning phase and letting
00:24:16 00:24:20 you know exactly what you need to do to
00:24:18 00:24:23 try to fit it but at the end of the day
00:24:20 00:24:25 it still comes down to the same metrics
00:24:23 00:24:27 that we're looking at right we're
00:24:25 00:24:29 testing our ads the same way or testing
00:24:27 00:24:31 products and we're looking for the
00:24:29 00:24:34 winners based on things like your
00:24:31 00:24:37 engagement right people tok about one
00:24:34 00:24:38 low CPMs if you want most CPM so you
00:24:37 00:24:39 want high engagement high engagement
00:24:38 00:24:42 equals low CPM
00:24:39 00:24:44 right so you're looking at you or
00:24:42 00:24:49 engagement that you're getting you are
00:24:44 00:24:51 also looking at your cost per click
00:24:49 00:24:53 right I toked about I toked about this
00:24:51 00:24:55 all the time your cost per click link is
00:24:53 00:24:57 determining you know what type of
00:24:55 00:24:58 audience you have are they interested in
00:24:57 00:25:01 buying your product are they clicking
00:24:58 00:25:02 are they going writing because this gets
00:25:01 00:25:05 you to your funnel right this gets you
00:25:02 00:25:07 from you know you have ADD and then you
00:25:05 00:25:09 have product page and then you have Add
00:25:07 00:25:12 to Cart and then you have checked out
00:25:09 00:25:14 right my marker is dying but you know
00:25:12 00:25:15 what I mean so your cost per click this
00:25:14 00:25:17 is the first one are you getting clicks
00:25:15 00:25:19 right here and if you're getting clicks
00:25:17 00:25:21 then you work down the funnel when you
00:25:19 00:25:23 keep working to make it profitable but
00:25:21 00:25:24 your cost per click is an important
00:25:23 00:25:27 metric leading up to getting purchases
00:25:24 00:25:28 all right so you're still looking at the
00:25:27 00:25:30 same metrics like I toked about in the
00:25:28 00:25:32 micro asset theory all that still holds
00:25:30 00:25:34 up and then once you're getting
00:25:32 00:25:37 purchases you're looking at your cost
00:25:34 00:25:39 per purchase to your ROI and determining
00:25:37 00:25:41 is this really profitable for me or not
00:25:39 00:25:42 is it something that's in the scaling
00:25:41 00:25:44 phase is it something that's in the
00:25:42 00:25:45 learning phase is it something that I
00:25:44 00:25:47 need to figure out and make more
00:25:45 00:25:49 profitable right do I need to increase
00:25:47 00:25:52 my average order value do I need to
00:25:49 00:25:53 increase my customer lifetime value like
00:25:52 00:25:55 these are the types of things to help
00:25:53 00:25:57 you figure out in your funnel once you
00:25:55 00:25:58 get to the purchase do you have a
00:25:57 00:26:00 profitable econ
00:25:58 00:26:02 that you can keep running right most
00:26:00 00:26:04 people base it just off of front-end
00:26:02 00:26:06 money right my costs per purchase to my
00:26:04 00:26:08 direct return on investment for money
00:26:06 00:26:10 pit was ads and that's something that
00:26:08 00:26:12 you can absolutely do down the funnel to
00:26:10 00:26:13 figure out if you're making money right
00:26:12 00:26:16 and then once you get through the
00:26:13 00:26:18 learning phase if you're here in
00:26:16 00:26:21 optimization and your cost per purchase
00:26:18 00:26:23 on your conversions is bringing you back
00:26:21 00:26:25 a profitable return on investment like
00:26:23 00:26:28 that three times are higher usually in
00:26:25 00:26:30 my opinion then you're good to just keep
00:26:28 00:26:32 stealing right and scale and scale and
00:26:30 00:26:35 your cost per action should stay pretty
00:26:32 00:26:36 steady as you scale as long as you keep
00:26:35 00:26:39 getting these 50 conversions a week
00:26:36 00:26:43 based on your conversion objective here
00:26:39 00:26:44 right so that's everything in this video
00:26:43 00:26:46 I hope you guys stone is helpful if you
00:26:44 00:26:49 have any questions please let me know
00:26:46 00:26:51 I'm gonna try to continue putting some
00:26:49 00:26:53 more of this stuff out this video gets a
00:26:51 00:26:54 good reaction I'll probably just put it
00:26:53 00:26:56 right into the Facebook masterclass
00:26:54 00:26:59 because I think this is really important
00:26:56 00:27:00 information in understanding what we're
00:26:59 00:27:02 doing when we're testing we're still
00:27:00 00:27:03 testing the same right we're still
00:27:02 00:27:05 testing based on the same metrics
00:27:03 00:27:08 it's just now we want to understand our
00:27:05 00:27:10 learning phase our conversion objective
00:27:08 00:27:12 attribution window and then how all that
00:27:10 00:27:15 works for optimization and then you know
00:27:12 00:27:17 once you optimize right that's when
00:27:15 00:27:19 scaling takes over and looking at your
00:27:17 00:27:20 cost per purchase to your ROI and
00:27:19 00:27:23 knowing your numbers and other things
00:27:20 00:27:24 that we've toked about so thanks for
00:27:23 00:27:27 watching
00:27:24 00:27:29 use this definitely use this and
00:27:27 00:27:32 understand this going in and q4 because
00:27:29 00:27:34 when you are when you're looking to
00:27:32 00:27:36 scale quickly you need to understand
00:27:34 00:27:37 this part here how quickly are you
00:27:36 00:27:39 getting into those conversions so if
00:27:37 00:27:41 you're testing into five ten fifteen
00:27:39 00:27:43 dollars a day which most people are
00:27:41 00:27:45 right then you just need to understand
00:27:43 00:27:48 the process that you're still trying to
00:27:45 00:27:49 get to to be able to optimize and scale
00:27:48 00:27:51 right and that's where we going to help
00:27:49 00:27:53 you in q4 with when you need to know
00:27:51 00:27:54 your numbers and you need to understand
00:27:53 00:27:56 your
00:27:54 00:27:58 and you know CPMs are going up because a
00:27:56 00:28:01 lot of competition big marketers dumping
00:27:58 00:28:04 their budget but remember your CPM is
00:28:01 00:28:06 just that's your you're paying for
00:28:04 00:28:08 impressions right so your CPM on your ad
00:28:06 00:28:10 definitely is an important metric
00:28:08 00:28:12 because you're paying for impressions
00:28:10 00:28:14 but your conversion objective is what
00:28:12 00:28:16 really matters that's what facebook is
00:28:14 00:28:18 learning that's what it's optimizing off
00:28:16 00:28:20 of and you can be profitable at a
00:28:18 00:28:22 conversion objective regardless of what
00:28:20 00:28:25 your CPM is so this is like stealing
00:28:22 00:28:27 your most important thing how are you
00:28:25 00:28:29 what is your cost per action right your
00:28:27 00:28:30 cost per action is still your most
00:28:29 00:28:32 important thing because that's what
00:28:30 00:28:34 you're optimizing and learning based off
00:28:32 00:28:38 of and your cost per impressions is just
00:28:34 00:28:40 how you're paying facebook right so yeah
00:28:38 00:28:41 let me know if you have any questions
00:28:40 00:28:44 hope you guys found this video valuable
00:28:41 00:28:46 take this stuff apply it hopefully
00:28:44 00:28:48 everybody crushes it and does amazing in
00:28:46 00:28:51 q4 with their ads using this type of
00:28:48 00:28:54 information tok to you later also hard
00:28:51 00:28:54 I'm afraid