How Anyone Can Confidently Show Up on Video
How Anyone Can Confidently Show Up on Video
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How Anyone Can Confidently Show Up on Video
- It's interesting
because when you look at
how this actually started to exist,
it was way, you know, in ancient times, pre-historic times.
It was, being watched
was a threat.
- Today, I'm very excited to be joined by Pelpina Trip.
If you don't know who Pelpina is,
you need to know Pelpina.
She's a video expert
who helps businesses grow their visibility
with online video.
She's also author of Video Smart;
Make smartphone videos like a pro.
And her course is called Five Steps to Camera Confidence.
Pelpina, welcome to the show.
- Oh, Mike, thank you so much,
especially for bringing me back.
I'm so excited to tok to you today.
- I'm very excited to have you back.
Today, Pelpina and I are gonna explore
how to improve your video presence
so you can improve your engagement and your sales.
Let's start with this question.
Why is today, 2022, when we're recording this,
why is video so important for sales and marketing?
For those that are, and by the way, just a little context,
there are plenty of people who are not doing video, right?
There's plenty of marketers, entrepreneurs, creators,
listening right now that are maybe taking pictures
and putting them on Instagram,
or maybe doing text-based updates on Facebook,
and they're just not,
something hasn't really connected for them about video
and maybe they're skeptikal about
whether they should even do anything on video.
What do you wanna say to those people?
- Well, I understand, first of all, I understand, you know?
I train people every single day in creating videos
and I know the biggest hurdles,
and I know that video is to some people, a big step,
but I really believe that video,
and I've seen that video is very powerful, why?
Not only because it's very visual and it's prioritized
in a lot of social media
on pretty much any social media website,
but also because it's human.
So the human element in video
is what I think makes it so different
and what makes it strong and what makes it stand out.
So if you really want to make a connection
with your audience,
if you want to, for people to trust you,
trust your business,
then using video can really help you stand out,
and it has done it for me as well.
So the human element really makes it different.
- Well, and the fact of the matter is that
Mark Zuckerberg said,
"Focus on video" to his development teams recently.
Video is gonna become a big part of Facebook.
It's gonna become a bigger part of Instagram.
TikTok is obviously all video.
LinkedIn is becoming more video-centric.
Twitter, you know, is a little late
to a lot of these kinda parties, but they're also,
they've got their live. - It's true, right?
Yes. - They've got their live
but everyone is moving towards video,
and it seems to me as if it's important for us marketers
to embrace video.
Now, what are some of the biggest things
that are stopping people from actually doing video?
Let's tok about some of the fears that are preventing
maybe people like me,
people like maybe you,
before you got into this world, you know?
What are those things that are stopping people
from actually turning on a camera and actually recording?
- Right, well, the number one thing
people will always ask me before they start filming,
or whenever they have maybe a few plans to start.
The first thing they always say, what should I get?
Tell me what to buy.
Should I get this microphone?
Should I get this light?
Should I get this,
you know, what should I get so I can create great videos?
But let me tell you, it's not about that.
Of course it's important.
And you know,
I can tell you all about things you should get,
and I can tell you all about good light and good audio
and having the right tikniques, and yes, that's important,
but what is way more important is how you
or someone who you're interviewing,
someone who is presenting on camera,
how they are coming across
and whether they can convey that message.
And if you cannot convey a message,
if you get really nervous or if things become a bit awkward,
if you get a little tongue twisted,
you don't know the right words,
and if you don't come across right,
then that is really what is stopping a lot of people
from even creating videos or even turning on their camera.
It's the fear really of being afraid,
the fear of failing.
Everyone will see me.
Everyone will, what will everyone think?
This is something I hear so often.
What will people think?
What will they think of me?
So, you know, my face will be everywhere.
Ugh, it will be so awkward.
So, and I understand, you know,
I understand what that's like.
I understand what that feels like.
It feels like you're being very exposed.
It feels very awkward.
And I think it's a very natural feeling.
It's a very natural fear to feel that way.
So if you look at history, right?
'Cause I actually dove into this
'cause I think it's really interesting to understand
why we experience this, right?
So why do we experience this fear?
And it's very comparable to public speaking actually.
I know you do this as well.
So before you go on stage and I'm sure we've all been there.
Even if you, you know,
when did a tok at high school or wherever,
you have a meeting and you have to say something,
all of us experience some type of, you know,
awkwardness or maybe feeling a bit nervous.
And it's interesting because when you look at
how this actually started to exist, it was way,
you know, in ancient times, prehistoric times,
it was, being watched was a threat.
- Mm. - So, right?
So if you felt that an animal or someone was watching you,
that was an actual threat.
So you would experience, you know, fight or flight.
You wanted to leave.
You started to either run, and that's
the exact same feeling that you might experience now,
whenever you have to appear in front of an audience
or appear in front of a camera.
So maybe you will feel nervous,
you feel sweaty,
you feel like you're stumbling over your words,
your face is getting red.
So you experience the exact same thing
that we as humans have experienced long time.
So really, it is in our DNA to experience this.
And if you understand where it's coming from,
then you can also,
you know, understand how to overcome it,
and you can overcome it.
You can work with it, actually.
- I wanna explore this a little bit deeper.
I find this absolutely fascinating.
First of all, you said, you know,
essentially, indirectly, one of the fears is
I don't have the right equipment, right?
That's one of the first things you said,
and we know that that's ridiculous
and we'll get to that a little bit more,
but one of the deeper fears that people have is
are people gonna judge me, right?
Or am I gonna look like an idiot, right?
And these are the thoughts that go through our mind.
But the thing that you just toked about
which I find absolutely fascinating is that
there might be some like primal thing inside of us
that doesn't like to have a bunch of people
essentially looking at us.
That's absolutely fascinating.
I could see how that could trigger
some sort of strange thing that we don't understand.
And it is weird - Isn't it fascinating?
- 'cause I have two degrees in speech,
undergrad and masters in speech communications,
and I've trained in this,
and it is true that public speaking
is one of the biggest fears in the world.
But what's weird about this is it's a camera.
So why do you think in this partikular case,
it's one thing to get in front of a live audience,
it's another thing to tok to a lens.
Do you still feel like this is part of what's at play here?
I mean tok- - Oh, absolutely.
- Yeah. - Yes, absolutely.
I see the exact same reaction.
It is perhaps even a bit more awkward
because it's not an actual human being you're toking to.
So what's interesting about, you know,
what you just toked about,
there's a certain part of the brain, I believe is called
the amygdala - Yeah.
- that's being activated, right?
Whenever you have this fear.
And what I find fascinating is one way to actually
calm the amygdala is to think of who you're serving.
So in this case it could be your viewers.
And if you do that, so if you think of,
Hey, who am I actually toking to?
And how can I help them?
So how can I serve others, perhaps through my knowledge
or things that I can help with through my company?
How can I serve them?
And that can actually,
that's one of the few things that can help calm down
that part of your brain.
And I do think, yes,
that if you're in front of a camera
that the exact same part of your brain is activated
because it's the exact same symptoms
that I see people have.
You know, I have people,
I just recorded, I don't know,
50, 60 video pitches for a large international company,
and it was all these sales executives and CEOs
and people who really are not afraid
to make a connection with other human beings.
But as soon as they were in front of a camera,
and as soon as I started recording,
they all did the exact same thing.
So they all started asking for water,
they started to look around,
they started to have dry mouths,
they were, you know, doing this with their hands,
they didn't know what to do with their hands anymore.
You know, it started getting a little nervous.
They forgot their lines, if they had any lines
they really wanted to say.
So it's a thing that I think all of us experience,
and it's very comparable to
speaking in front of an audience,
and actually maybe even a bit more awkward
because you cannot tok to a human being, right?
So when I tok to you, I see you sitting,
I see you responding,
I see you nodding every once in a while, which is nice.
But when you tok to a camera, there's nothing there, right?
It's just a lens.
And so you also have to imagine that there's people there,
there's a viewer there,
and that's difficult because it's awkward
and it's not real.
- Fascinating, so one of the things you said we can do is
imagine who we're serving.
So I would imagine in that partikular case,
we imagine someone who's going to be watching that video.
And maybe we have that someone in mind already
because we have this target audience
we know we're trying to reach.
And maybe we can just imagine we're toking to someone
who we know that meets that profile.
Like maybe it's a relative,
maybe it's a fellow employee,
and you just imagine you're toking to that person.
I would imagine could help.
But some of the other fears that people face are like,
not knowing what to say.
You know, it's one thing to just
open your mouth and imagine.
How do we overcome that?
How do I control what comes out of my mouth?
- Having a plan is what's most important here, okay?
So first you have to know your audience, right?
Which what you just said.
So if you want to serve someone,
which by the way has helped me tremendously.
So I used to work in television
and I was on TV news every day,
and I was nervous every single day
trying to remember my lines.
What really has helped me is when I went to online video
and when I started to get to know my audience
and I started to get to know the people,
and I was really doing it for them.
So I was really trying to serve them, right?
In whatever way you can.
I truly believe in this, that if you can help others,
if you can serve others through whatever you do,
well, it makes the world a better place anyway,
but it also helps you create better content,
it helps you appear better in front of a camera.
So it helps you with your message, but also with planning.
So if you have focus, you have a video plan, for example,
and you know your audience,
you know who you're toking to,
it can help you in getting your message across well.
So I always tok about the three Ps,
people, platform, purpose, which also applies here.
So people is your audience, your ideal viewer.
If you know who your ideal viewer is,
you also know where to reach them, the platform, right?
So that could be Facebook or LinkedIn.
And based on those first two,
you can have focus so you can think of, okay,
what kind of video should I make?
So I'm making a video for business owners on LinkedIn and
LinkedIn, you know, you probably want to create
a shorter video of one or two minutes,
it probably should be square.
So with the first two Ps, people and platform,
you can already think of kind of a topic
and you can have focus because you know,
well, it's only a minute or two.
And then, you know, then they're done
because they're just scrolling through a feed.
And the third P is purpose.
So what would you like your viewer to do or think or feel
when they watch your video?
And if you have that focus,
if you know who your audience is,
and if you know where they're going to watch you,
listen to you, where you can serve them,
and if you also know what the purpose is of the video,
that can help you with your focus, tremendously.
I do this all the time.
Even if I do a quick little video of, you know,
a training or whatever,
I first think of who am I toking to?
And I don't just, you know,
have this audience of business owners on LinkedIn.
But I think of someone I know within that audience,
an actual person,
so maybe a neighbor
or a friend or a colleague,
someone I actually know,
and I tok to them.
And this helps a lot in front of a camera too.
So when you're nervous or you don't know
how to get that focus
or how to use the right tone of voice,
which is of course, also very important
in how you come across.
- I wanna come back to that,
but I wanna ask this question. - Yes.
- What about the stuff that goes on up here in our head
where people say, people are gonna judge me,
you know? - Yes.
- How do we handle that?
Because you know,
it's one thing to know who we're serving,
- Yes. - And
the platform and the purpose.
But we still might have those little voices in our head
that say, I sound like a fool or people are gonna judge me.
How do we deal with that?
- Well, I've dealt with this myself
by going through it, by failing.
So I remember being live on television for the first time.
This was really terrible.
I don't like toking about this.
But I do think it's good to tok about it because, you know,
people always think, well, you just like being on camera.
That's just you.
You were born this way.
Nope, not born this way.
I'm a very shy introvert person.
Don't like being the center of attention at all.
So this does not come natural to me.
So the first time I was live on television,
this was probably 2010 in Dallas, CW.
And it was nine o'clock in the evening,
and I had to do this segment live.
And I was standing next to a news anchor
who had 300 years of tele, you know,
experience in television making.
He was really good.
And I wasn't 'cause I was, I don't know,
really young 22, 23.
And he said something.
So the thing in television is you'll always kind of rehearse
before you go live, right?
So you say, okay,
so you can kinda say this and I do that and you say this.
So it's all kind of toked about.
So we did our, you know, thing, the segment,
and then he said one line
that we had not toked about beforehand.
And what did I do?
So I just toked about fight or flight.
Well, there's another one and that's freezing.
Well, I experienced that.
So I just stood there.
I didn't say anything.
I don't think I was breathing.
- Did he rescue you?
Did he come to your aid?
No? - No, well, yes he did.
Yes, of course.
Yes, so he looked at me and he was like,
okay, so she froze.
And then he just continued and pretended everything,
you know, was fine.
- But you felt horrible, obviously.
- I felt terrible,
but it was so good to go through that because afterwards,
I remember walking, you know,
off the desk and I remember thinking I'm still here.
I survived. - Yeah.
- And of course, the next day, he did it again.
And the day after that as well.
And it's gruesome, it's terrible.
But if you go through it, then you train yourself,
you really train your body that it's okay.
You can go through this and you will survive, you know?
You can still breathe, you can still tok,
you don't have to freeze.
So it's really going through it,
it's you know, just
doing it, failing.
- Yeah. - And maybe failing many times
and not being afraid to fail.
And that is probably the hardest part, right?
Just- - Well, and I think
you're onto something here because what happens is
the more you do the act of toking to a camera,
whether it's live or not,
the better your brain is prepared for the unexpected, right?
And the more flexible you can be
and the more willing to roll with the punches.
And then eventually, you begin to realize that
actually that's what people want.
And this is really important.
People want imperfection.
They do not want perfection.
I'm watching American Idol
and they're giving some of the singers,
Hey, you're too perfect.
You need to be willing to make a mistake
by trying to go to a higher level with your voice.
You know what I mean? - Oh, I love that, yes.
- This is what people want.
They want authentikity, not perfection.
And that's really important. - Yes.
- Don't you agree? - It's so important.
The moment I let go of being perfect,
and trust me, this is still a struggle for me.
So it's not like I completely let go of this, but you know,
it's still a daily thing to let go of the perfection.
But the moment, okay, I remember, you know,
for years and years I was making videos.
I've been making videos for a long time.
And I was making videos on Instagram,
making videos on YouTube, Facebook.
And one day I started to post a video on LinkedIn,
which by the way, changed my life.
But it was really a very simple video,
not perfect at all.
It was just a behind the scenes video of an app
I found out, I discovered.
It was an app called Clips
that you caption videos automatikally.
Yes. - On your iPhone.
- So yes, on the iPhone, exactly.
So this was, you know, a few years ago is brand new
and I was just, you know,
trying to test it out and put that video on LinkedIn.
And it had so many views and likes and comments,
but what was way more interesting, it had so,
I had so many messages in my inbox of people
actually responding on my video and asking me questions
on the content.
And this was a video that I just, you know,
shot while I was filming.
And I thought, well,
maybe more people should know about this app.
This is kind of interesting.
I really like this, you know, like really like this app.
Totally not perfect.
The moment I stopped trying to create perfect videos
is when things started flowing, and I mean this.
It really is so true.
The moment I let go of creating perfect videos with,
you know, perfectly edited,
but also perfectly in my makeup and perfect in my doing,
perfect with my voice and my, you know,
the moment I let go of that
and I started to show people
a bit more of who I actually am,
'cause that's really what it is,
is you decide to show a bit more of who you are,
to show a bit more personality,
that's when things really started flowing,
things started to grow and people started to
actually notike my videos.
And most importantly,
people started to connect with me and send me messages,
meaningful messages, you know,
asking me actual questions about the content I was creating.
So I think letting go of perfection
is one of the biggest things that has helped me.
So, absolutely agree with you on that one.
- So earlier, you mentioned something about energy,
and let's tok about that a little bit because
it's one thing to just let go of perfection.
We're not saying you should just wing it, right?
We are saying you should have a plan,
but it doesn't need to be perfect.
But there is something about the energy
that your voice springs and that, you know,
tok to us a little bit about energy
and why that's so important when it comes to video.
- Oh, it is, it's everything.
I mean, it's, you know, right now doing this interview,
the way I prepared was trying to have the right energy.
And to be honest, right now, I'm really tired.
You know, I,
and I often.
- But we're having a good conversation-
- We're having a really good conversation,
- and people are locked in, you know?
- And I'm try, you know,
I'm trying to give that energy and be that energy really.
But I do things beforehand, before an interview
or before I record a video, before I appear on camera,
and I really try to, and this might sound silly,
but I really do this.
I try to scan my body and really feel how, you know,
what the energy is and it doesn't take long,
but it's really, you know, quick body scan.
What am I feeling.
- What does that mean exactly?
Just so people understand that scan-
- So what it means, to me, it means I just close my eyes
for just five seconds and I feel.
So I stop thinking and I feel.
So instead of thinking,
I should do this and I should do that,
and this is, you know,
and I should test my mic
and all the things I need to be doing,
I listen to my body and I try to see,
how am I really feeling?
What is my energy level?
Am I stressed?
Am I excited?
Am I tired?
You know, what am I feeling?
And there's two things you can then do.
You can either work with that energy
or you can try to convert the energy.
So if you want to work with the energy, and I do this often,
I try to make it part of the video.
So if I'm excited, which by the way, I often am,
you know, excited about an app or whatever,
I tok about that app and I, you know,
show people that I'm excited.
If I'm tired, maybe I can use that in my video as well,
because maybe more people are tired
and maybe they might connect with me better that way.
So I can make it a part of my video.
- Yeah, how would you, if you're tired,
- somehow like help people wrap their brain around
what that might look like.
Clearly some of them are listening and like,
well, if Pelpina's tired right now,
then I would wondering what she's like when she's excited
- Oh, sorry, yeah.
- 'cause you have a lot of energy right now.
So if you're tired,
how does that alter your,
how does that,
you know, the curious-
- Right, okay, let me give you an example.
- So at the start of COVID,
I was overwhelmed as I'm sure a lot of people were, right?
I really thought, well, you know,
there were all these people who had very, you know,
essential professions, you know, doctors
and people who, you know, sell food
and people who save people's lives.
And here I am making videos.
So I felt useless.
I felt tired.
I just, you know, I was overwhelmed with emotion.
We have three kids and, you know, they had,
we had to homeschool them, so I was stressed.
I was feeling all the feelings.
And I thought in that moment,
I was sitting on a chair downstairs and you know, no makeup,
just feeling all the feelings I was just toking about.
And I thought, well, if I feel this way,
more people must be feeling this way.
So why shouldn't I just give back?
Why don't I just tok about what is happening?
'cause I had all these cancellations in my agenda.
So what I do is I'm a video trainer, and I go to companies
and I train people to make videos.
But of course, everyone was like,
well you cannot come right now because there's COVID.
So, you know, I had all these cancellations
and I was stressed.
And so I just created this video and I said, you know what?
I'm really tired, I'm stressed, I'm sitting here,
and I was wearing Christmas socks.
I remember this 'cause I showed people my Christmas socks
and I said, Hey, you know what?
I think it's time to do something to give back.
I'm gonna do a free video workshop.
I'm gonna do it twice.
And if you want to be a part of this
and if you wanna be a part of this
in your Christmas socks, you can
'cause it doesn't matter what you wear right now, sign up.
And I had an overwhelming response.
It was absolutely insane,
but it was-
- Okay, so I wanna ask a couple,
I think I'm hearing what you're saying here.
If you're under pressure or stress,
you could come on and say,
Hey everyone, I've got an announcement,
it's not really great news.
Do you see how my energy is different,
you know? - Right.
- I'm going through some stuff right now
and I just wanna share it, right?
I'm not faking it.
I mean, even though this case I'm acting.
That would be like an example of you being just raw
and authentik in your videos versus,
Hey, everybody, I'm struggling, but,
you know, that sounds fake,
right? - Right.
- So what I'm hearing you say is lean in
and let out a little bit of what is going on.
Is that really what I'm hearing this-
- That is exactly what I meant, yes.
It's even, and it's in tiny things.
So I always start my videos with a smile, right?
It's like, hi. - Yeah.
- And one video, what, before I did my book launch,
we created a bunch of videos, my husband and I.
My husband, his name is Rick.
And so he was filming,
but he filmed before I said hi.
So I was just sitting on this chair and he said, hi.
And I was, you know, looking pretty serious, I don't know,
'cause I was working and I looked up with my serious face
and then I saw his camera and I started smiling.
And then I had, you know,
this and I know this is very small, but this is, you know,
how small things can make a big difference.
The first two seconds, I had to decide,
am I going to crop it off the video?
Am I gonna take it off?
You know, the first two seconds where I'm not smiling,
where I'm just sitting there being all serious,
looking up and then I'm smiling.
And I decided to just leave it there.
And the funny thing is, Mike,
I had so many responses of people on that video
because of the start.
- They said, I really like to see more of your normal face.
And it's just so fascinating
'cause I had never thought of it that way,
but people really just wanted to see me and,
you know, and so I started to change little things
every once in a while.
And it's, I mean, it's still the struggle.
You know, I still try to,
I don't know. - Right.
- You know, be perfect and smile all the time.
But sometimes I just kind of leave in a few things
and lean into what I'm actually feeling, as you said.
- Well, you said that you can work with the energy
that you have or you can try converting it.
tok to me about how we try to convert it
because in some cases,
we might just be distracted before we're about to film
'cause we're dealing with something
in our personal life, right?
And we don't want it to come across
when we actually hit record.
How can we take what's happening
that might be not positive in our life or in our job
and convert it into positive energy before we hit record?
Because I think people would find that interesting.
- Yes, and it's really difficult.
Let me tell you that first.
It's okay if it takes you a little while to get into it.
You don't have to hit record
and then have a one take wonder.
I don't, sometimes it takes me 20 minutes to get into it,
to have that right energy.
And so I do things to
be more comfortable or to have that right energy,
and it's silly, you know?
I do silly things to kind of look okay on camera.
So one thing I do for example is
sometimes I hang upside down.
So, like this.
- Literally hang upside down?
Do what do you have- - I really hang upside down.
- You have a device in your house or you just-
- No, no, no, no, it's just-
- Do you have a couch or something?
- On my feet.
No, just on my feet.
It's nothing too easy.
- Okay, so for those listening to the audio,
Pelpina is essentially in a chair and she just leaned over
and put her head between her legs.
That's what I-
- Exactly, exactly. - Okay.
- And it really, what you do is you just loosen up
and you just let go.
Right? - Okay.
- And if you do that for a minute or two minutes,
you have to let go.
Just you 'cause you,
you have to just stop thinking and just let go.
And if you breathe while you do that,
it really helps you calm
and let go of perhaps some stress that you have.
If you don't have the two minutes,
'cause I know sometimes you don't have two minutes,
you can also breathe.
What I learned is
one of the best ways to breathe and make your body calmer
is to do quick, big,
quick, inhales, too quick inhales like this
and then breathe out longer
- through your mouth.
So if you do that,
maybe even just, you know, two or three times,
it really helps you calm down.
Another thing you can do to convert your energy.
'cause if you may be tired,
if you have children like I do,
if they keep you up at night
and then you still have to work the next day,
you still have to look all bubbly in front of a camera.
Trust me I know
what that's like.
So you know, what you can do.
And I'm sure you've heard about this, Mike is, you know,
when you stand like this, like a superman, superwoman pose,
this, you know, research has actually shown.
- Oh, so - Oh really?
- Hands on the hips, okay.
- Right, so this is a superman or superwoman pose.
And if you stand like this for a few minutes,
if studies have shown that people who do this
before taking an exam,
actually feel more confident if they stand like this.
So I always do this before I do a presentation
or if I'm nervous before a live stream or something,
I stand like this.
Another thing you can do is put your hands up,
like up in the air, like you just won something, right?
So 'cause what do you do when you win a game
or you win, you know, like, I don't know, sports game?
You put your hands up,
- Yeah. - Right, you do this.
So you can do that
before you have to do something difficult,
like toking to a camera
and you get that energy
before you have to perform.
So there is, you know, a lot of physical, you know,
little exercises you can do. - I have (mumbles) I can add.
I take my shoes off, believe it or not,
when I'm doing interviews.
So I have no shoes on right now.
- Really? - But normally I wear shoes
and I just take them off and I'm more comfortable
if I'm not in my shoes
when I'm doing this recording.
I also will like do these stretches where I'll like, my,
you know, muscles in my back are kinda tight.
So I'll do a couple stresses.
I'll get a couple of coughs out of the way.
You know what I mean? - Yes, good, good, yes.
- So, I'll just kinda, you know, put my arms out,
spin 'em around a little bit before I go,
you know, to do it.
And sometimes, I'll jump up and down.
Like if I'm doing, if I have a cameraman with me,
I'll probably just move a little bit
just kinda like just to get a little action
to kinda bring that energy, you know?
I mean, I don't know.
I just, I don't know what it does,
but it somehow gets the blood flowing, it seems.
I don't know. - It really does.
Yes, I see people jump or dance a little bit.
Well, I love what you said about stretching
because - Yeah.
- if you do a little body scan, if you, you know,
think how do I feel?
What is my body like right now?
And you feel like maybe I'm a little tense here,
then you will start doing this.
- And so what I see is when people hit record,
oftentimes, if you are a bit stressed or nervous,
you hit record and you immediately start toking, right?
So you hit record and it's like,
and then you start toking.
What you can also do is hit record and wait.
- Yes. - Just wait.
And you know, just breathe.
(Pelpina inhaling and exhaling)
Do that, maybe dance, as you said.
Do a little dance, do a little stretch,
whatever you have to do.
Put your arms up a little bit.
Do, you know?
And until you think,
okay, now I'm feeling better.
And you can also do the same thing
if you are in the midst of a recording,
then all of a sudden you don't remember your lines
or, you know, you feel like you get stuck,
you get tongue tied, then you can do that as well
just to kind of loosen up again.
It really does help. - I love it.
And you know what's great about just hitting record
and not starting to tok right away is
some of that footage might be worth using,
like you mentioned earlier, right?
- Absolutely, yes.
- But it might be those outtakes that you stik in there.
Like, a lot of, I do quirky stuff.
Like I'll mess up my words
or I'll just do weird stuff sometimes.
And I just sometimes keep it in,
you know, when I used to do a lot more videos
and people love seeing that kind of stuff
that just love seeing a side of me
that maybe I don't necessarily show the world every day.
- Yes, yeah, but it's true, it's so true.
We wanna see those things as well.
- Right. - And so I often hit,
so if I interview someone, I often hit record
before they sit down
because oftentimes, those little moments,
you can definitely use later on in video.
So yes, I love that.
- Okay, first of all,
this has been golden and I've got a couple more things
that we're gonna dig in and even more gold coming, everyone.
So let's say that I've been doing video for a little while
and I'm just not super happy with my performance.
What are some of the things that we can do to improve
- so that we can get better over time?
Because we all know that our worst video
is typically our first video, right?
And over time, we get better,
but we don't get better
if we don't take certain kinds of actions.
So what steps could we take to become better?
- Yes, well, this is really good
because you first have to know yourself,
which is really hard.
You have to understand and know yourself,
and you have to look at yourself on camera,
which by the way is,
that's a hard thing for a lot of us to do anyway.
So what I would recommend,
and this is something I do with people I train, I coach is
I say, let's record a good story,
a memory, a nice memory you have.
Maybe a nice holiday memory.
And just tok about that.
Just tell me.
So tok for maybe 10 minutes
about this nice holiday you had to Italy,
and tell me the things you did
and what it was like.
What was the weather like?
And all the things you did.
Just tok, and do that for about 10 minutes or longer,
whatever you need, until you think,
okay, this is me toking.
Then you hit stop.
And then you look back,
and you look back at yourself
and you probably will see the first part of your video.
Maybe you're a little tense or nervous.
You didn't know what to do with your hands.
Maybe you didn't have a lot of facial expression yet,
or what was your, you know, body language doing?
And then through, the further the video, along the video,
you will see hopefully, things changing a little bit.
You will hear it in your voice.
So a lot of us, when we're nervous,
we stop breathing well, right?
So we start breathing really high,
which makes our voice higher as well.
A lot of women have the two actually.
But research actually has shown
if you want to have a strong, you know, convincing voice,
you probably want your voice to be a little bit lower.
So hopefully, you will see through the video
that your voice changes.
Maybe you slow down a little bit.
Maybe you see yourself breathing again, maybe even smiling,
or maybe sometimes your eyes get white
or you use your eyebrows, you use your hands.
So look at yourself in the latter part of the video and see,
what do I actually look like?
What do I sound like?
How do I use my hands?
What do I do with my voice?
What is a normal way for me to speak?
What kind of words do I use?
What kind of tone of voice do I have?
When do I pause?
And this is really a way to get to know yourself
because you normally don't look at yourself this way.
At least, I don't know a lot of people
who look at themselves in the mirror and you know,
tok to themselves each day, every day.
So this is a little exercise.
So just get to know yourself
and get to know your own body language.
And then what I really would like to recommend you to do is
to show your video to someone else, not yourself,
'cause you can, you're probably your own worst judge, right?
You will look at that video and judge yourself
and think everything is terrible.
That you sound terrible, that you look terrible.
But show that video to someone who knows you,
someone who's close to you, and ask them, is that me?
Is that me?
And if they say, yeah, that's you,
that's how you tok, that's, yeah.
That's what you do.
Yeah, you do that thing with your nose or whatever.
Then if there's certain things that you would like to change
or improve, maybe you want to be less nervous
with your hands or stop twisting your hair,
whatever it is that you notike,
I would recommend to just do one at a time.
- One what at a time? - Yes.
So try to work on one improvement at a time.
- Ah, okay. - Right.
So if maybe you notike that you don't smile often
and you would like to look more friendly,
I had to practike smiling more.
So you know,
you can start off with whenever I hit record,
the first thing I do is I smile.
And then whenever I end a sentence,
the last thing I do is I smile.
And once you do that a few times and it's in your system,
then you move on to the next thing.
So maybe it's the hair thing
or maybe what you do with your hands
because you know,
they become pretty useless
when you're toking in front of a camera,
all of a sudden,
people don't know what to do with their hands anymore.
But what I would recommend is not, you know,
don't look at yourself and be a judge and think,
oh, you know, I have to just overhaul, change everything.
No, that is really difficult to do.
But look at a few things and try to improve one at a time.
But you know, really try to be you.
That's, you know, the most important thing, be you,
which is also the most difficult thing.
- I wanna tok about body language and voice.
But first I wanna tok about voice.
I took a nice long pause there intentionally.
Wide space is super important,
and I feel like a lot of people
feel like they have to speak faster when they're on camera
because for whatever reason,
they have to get it all out.
But if you can take a pause at the right moment
and you can change your vocal tone to express excitement
and can slow down in those little moments.
I mean, those are the kinda things
that take a little bit of practike,
but those are the kinda things that allow your message
to be received by the other party.
And the one thing I wanna really drive home is
if you have a really important sentence
you're about to say,
you need to pause after you say it
to give people time to process it.
Would you agree?
- Oh, absolutely, yes.
- Now, let's tok about nonverbals because that's a little,
let's tok about body language a little bit,
like stances and stuff.
Some people can't control it, right?
But it's the hardest thing to control
because it's almost subliminal.
But do you have any tips or feedback on body language?
- Yes, okay, so,
oftentimes, we forget to turn on our body language.
So, - Okay.
- Yes, so it's something you can actually turn on
or learn how to kind of work with it.
So one thing that is difficult to almost everyone
who you know, is toking to a camera,
standing in front of a camera, is the hands.
These things are useless when you're in front of a camera.
All of a sudden they have no purpose.
So what do I do with my hands?
So people, you know, start putting, you know,
they don't know what to do with them.
You can, for example, put something in your hands.
- Oh, I like that.
Like there's coffee mug in her hands right now.
- Oh, sorry, yes.
So there's, you know, a big coffee mug in my hands.
It could be a glass of water.
It could be a pen, you know, or like a book or whatever,
something that just kinda sits there.
So, and that can really help calm people down.
You know, I do this all the time and I see the hands going,
you know, doing all crazy things,
say, Hey, maybe you just hold this,
and be like, oh thank you.
Now I have something.
Now my hands have-
- How you have a prop
and it could have your logo on it, right?
- Of course, yes.
It could, you know, yes.
Like have an actual,
you could tok about a product that you actually, you know,
that you want to feature in your video,
and you can hold it in your hands
and it gives your hands something to do.
So that's one thing.
Another thing is to have an open body language.
I'm sure we've all heard about this, we've all seen this.
So you don't want your hands to be,
your arms to be crossed over, of course,
but you also don't want them to be behind your back.
It's like you're hiding something maybe.
So one thing I've read is if people can see your hands
every once in a while and see your wrists,
which I think is interesting.
But if people can see your wrists every once in a while,
so then you have to do this.
So you have to open your hands and they trust you faster.
How interesting is that?
So I am a firm believer in using your hands.
Some people say, don't use your hands too much,
which of course, you don't want to be,
you know, waving around.
But I do believe that you should use your hands
every once in a while if you want to make a point,
'cause it's very natural.
It's the most natural thing to do
is use your hands when you're toking.
And same thing goes for expression.
So people forget to not, and that's not just smiling, right?
Sometimes we think, well, just smile.
Well, it's not just smiling.
You can speak with your eyes, with your eyebrows,
with the way you move your head.
So if I tilt my head just like this, I,
you know, I don't like you at all.
- But if I look down a little,
if I look down and then look up with my eyes,
that means something too, right?
- Yes, yes.
It's this tiny little things that make a big difference.
And you can,
if you're aware of this and you can practike this,
you can practike this in front of a mirror
or while you're taking pictures
and just kind of see what it does.
If I tilt my head backwards a little bit, what does it do?
Or if I tilt it like this or if I, you know,
move it like this,
or if I smile or use my eyebrows or my eyes.
- Yeah. - It does
a lot of different things.
And it's those small things that in everyday life
we turn on automatikally whenever we're toking to someone.
But in front of a camera, we forget to turn those on.
So it's, you know, again,
if you look at yourself and you notike those small things
and then you can start practiking with, do I use my eyes?
Do I speak with my eyes as well?
Do I speak with my eyebrows?
Or can I practike doing that a little bit more?
- Pelpina, this has been
really solid gold.
And I would love you to tell people,
and some people are like, no, don't stop.
Where can people discover more about you
if they wanna learn more about the great things
you've got going on?
- Well, you can find me anywhere online
if you just Google Pelpina,
which is P-E-L-P-I-N-A
or go to my website, pelpina.com, pelpina.academy.
You can find me on LinkedIn, which is really, you know,
where I hang out.
So I would love to link and connect.
And I share a lot of videos there
with more tips on camera confidence
and also creating videos as well.
- Pelpina Trip, thank you for giving
so many people today confidence.
And I wanna challenge everyone.
Go ahead and put some of this stuff to the test
and share this with others that you think maybe
could benefit from this.
Pelpina, I can't wait to have you back
someday in the future.
Thank you so much for sharing your insights with us today.
- Thank you.
I really appreciate your invitation to come back
and I would love to come back someday, of course.
So, thank you.
- See you next time.
I'll say that one more time.
See you next time,
'cause it seems like my audio broke out there.
Hold on, see you next time.
See you next time.
See you next time.
This is a great example
if you decide to keep this in on the video
about how like you gotta work on your inflections.
See you next time.
No, let's keep it in the audio too.
See you next time, Pelpina, bye bye.
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