How to Build a Million Dollar Accounting Firm - Feedbackwrench Outsourced Accounting
Published on: December 6 2022 by FeedbackWrench
How to Build a Million Dollar Accounting Firm - Feedbackwrench Outsourced Accounting
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How to Build a Million Dollar Accounting Firm - Feedbackwrench Outsourced Accounting
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00:00:00 | 00:00:04 | well hey everybody my name is rob satram |
00:00:02 | 00:00:06 | and i'm going to tok about how i grew |
00:00:04 | 00:00:07 | to a million dollar firm in less than |
00:00:06 | 00:00:09 | two years and it was called nuance |
00:00:07 | 00:00:11 | financial tax and accounting now right |
00:00:09 | 00:00:12 | now i just want you to know that i have |
00:00:11 | 00:00:14 | an agenda here and my agenda is to do |
00:00:12 | 00:00:17 | kind of three things one i want to show |
00:00:14 | 00:00:18 | you how i was able or what the framework |
00:00:17 | 00:00:20 | of what i call this outsourced |
00:00:18 | 00:00:22 | accounting model is which is what |
00:00:20 | 00:00:23 | allowed us to kind of drive towards a |
00:00:22 | 00:00:25 | million dollars in clients with only |
00:00:23 | 00:00:26 | about or a million dollars in revenue |
00:00:25 | 00:00:30 | with like |
00:00:26 | 00:00:31 | 150 clients it was really powerful um |
00:00:30 | 00:00:33 | the second thing i want to do is hit on |
00:00:31 | 00:00:34 | how you can work with us so we do |
00:00:33 | 00:00:38 | websites and accounting for small |
00:00:34 | 00:00:40 | businesses or webs no we do websites and |
00:00:38 | 00:00:42 | paid advertising for accountants and |
00:00:40 | 00:00:43 | other small businesses and basically |
00:00:42 | 00:00:47 | what we do is we kind of have a get |
00:00:43 | 00:00:48 | started package for 3 500 500 or 7 500 |
00:00:47 | 00:00:50 | we do |
00:00:48 | 00:00:52 | basically where you get my my course but |
00:00:50 | 00:00:56 | what we do is we set up a phenomenal |
00:00:52 | 00:00:58 | website that gains trust that actually |
00:00:56 | 00:01:01 | will have a system to it because we'll |
00:00:58 | 00:01:03 | set up paid advertising and a funnel |
00:01:01 | 00:01:05 | system that is fantastik so i'd love to |
00:01:03 | 00:01:07 | help you with that and number three i |
00:01:05 | 00:01:09 | have a course it's 500 bucks and it |
00:01:07 | 00:01:11 | toks about how to do this outsourced |
00:01:09 | 00:01:12 | accounting model and |
00:01:11 | 00:01:15 | lots of sales coaching in there it gives |
00:01:12 | 00:01:16 | you what you don't have okay and what |
00:01:15 | 00:01:18 | most of you have is you're really good |
00:01:16 | 00:01:19 | at accounting or if you're not good at |
00:01:18 | 00:01:20 | accounting you can go find out how to |
00:01:19 | 00:01:22 | get good in accounting but running a |
00:01:20 | 00:01:24 | good business that's profitable is huge |
00:01:22 | 00:01:25 | so i'm just going to dive right into it |
00:01:24 | 00:01:27 | so right off the bat let's tok about |
00:01:25 | 00:01:29 | some of the things i i like to |
00:01:27 | 00:01:31 | make uh |
00:01:29 | 00:01:32 | i demonize |
00:01:31 | 00:01:34 | the the typical tax and accounting firm |
00:01:32 | 00:01:36 | so there's a typical tax and accounting |
00:01:34 | 00:01:37 | firm and then what i call the outsourced |
00:01:36 | 00:01:39 | accountant model and basically what the |
00:01:37 | 00:01:42 | typical accounting firm is |
00:01:39 | 00:01:44 | is that they do hourly work for people |
00:01:42 | 00:01:47 | and businesses and they're generally |
00:01:44 | 00:01:49 | like swamped um you know people use |
00:01:47 | 00:01:51 | their services because they ask for them |
00:01:49 | 00:01:53 | right usually what happens in a typical |
00:01:51 | 00:01:55 | tax and accounting firm or even a cpa |
00:01:53 | 00:01:56 | firm or even a bookkeeper right |
00:01:55 | 00:01:58 | they find somebody that comes to them |
00:01:56 | 00:02:00 | they're like i want my books done i want |
00:01:58 | 00:02:01 | my taxes done i will you help me with |
00:02:00 | 00:02:03 | something file an extension or whatever |
00:02:01 | 00:02:04 | that is and at the end of the year or |
00:02:03 | 00:02:05 | throughout the year they're either doing |
00:02:04 | 00:02:06 | their books for them and then at the end |
00:02:05 | 00:02:08 | of the year what they'll do is they'll |
00:02:06 | 00:02:10 | come along and they'll help them do the |
00:02:08 | 00:02:10 | tax return they kind of clean things up |
00:02:10 | 00:02:12 | and |
00:02:10 | 00:02:14 | and no matter what even if you were to |
00:02:12 | 00:02:15 | charge like twelve hundred dollars for a |
00:02:14 | 00:02:17 | business tax return maybe five hundred |
00:02:15 | 00:02:20 | dollars for a personal tax return let's |
00:02:17 | 00:02:22 | just be frank um it's a compressed |
00:02:20 | 00:02:24 | season where you're trying to do a ton |
00:02:22 | 00:02:26 | of work all in one season that's super |
00:02:24 | 00:02:28 | hard um it's not great money because |
00:02:26 | 00:02:29 | it's a ton of work and for every person |
00:02:28 | 00:02:31 | like |
00:02:29 | 00:02:32 | what's so hard is you got to get all of |
00:02:31 | 00:02:33 | these clients so that you can actually |
00:02:32 | 00:02:36 | make enough money in order to make |
00:02:33 | 00:02:37 | enough money you got to have a lot of a |
00:02:36 | 00:02:40 | lot of meetings a lot of touch points |
00:02:37 | 00:02:42 | because everybody has 15 different touch |
00:02:40 | 00:02:44 | points on every single tax return here's |
00:02:42 | 00:02:45 | the fact of the matter and i'll i'll |
00:02:44 | 00:02:47 | tok to you about my whole story there's |
00:02:45 | 00:02:48 | a longer version of this video below |
00:02:47 | 00:02:51 | here you don't have to watch that in |
00:02:48 | 00:02:53 | this one um but basically what i'm gonna |
00:02:51 | 00:02:55 | tell you is that there's a better way |
00:02:53 | 00:02:57 | okay you shouldn't just do |
00:02:55 | 00:02:58 | the services the accounting attack |
00:02:57 | 00:03:00 | services the people ask for you can hear |
00:02:58 | 00:03:01 | my kids going crazy back there what you |
00:03:00 | 00:03:03 | should do is that you should connect |
00:03:01 | 00:03:06 | with business owners engage with them |
00:03:03 | 00:03:08 | and help them have a preferable future |
00:03:06 | 00:03:10 | what you're going to do is you're going |
00:03:08 | 00:03:12 | to create a framework that allows you to |
00:03:10 | 00:03:14 | deliver massive |
00:03:12 | 00:03:16 | intense amounts of value to that |
00:03:14 | 00:03:17 | business owner which is really easy for |
00:03:16 | 00:03:18 | me to say but i'm going to tok about a |
00:03:17 | 00:03:20 | couple of things real quick so let me |
00:03:18 | 00:03:22 | hit on what's valuable to a business |
00:03:20 | 00:03:24 | owner here's the deal |
00:03:22 | 00:03:26 | none of them like doing this stuff none |
00:03:24 | 00:03:28 | of them like paying taxes they all hate |
00:03:26 | 00:03:30 | doing bookkeeping they understand |
00:03:28 | 00:03:31 | financials right there but they're a lot |
00:03:30 | 00:03:33 | like me i understand numbers i |
00:03:31 | 00:03:36 | understand financials i do not want to |
00:03:33 | 00:03:38 | sit in my books and reconcile books i |
00:03:36 | 00:03:39 | don't want to know where it would |
00:03:38 | 00:03:41 | account does this go to the charter |
00:03:39 | 00:03:43 | accounts means nothing to me and i don't |
00:03:41 | 00:03:45 | want to waste my time in fact not only |
00:03:43 | 00:03:47 | do i not want to waste my time i know |
00:03:45 | 00:03:49 | that if i can spend time communicating |
00:03:47 | 00:03:50 | and leading my people and working on my |
00:03:49 | 00:03:53 | clients stuff that i will make |
00:03:50 | 00:03:54 | way more money so it is a complete and |
00:03:53 | 00:03:56 | utter waste of my time for me to do |
00:03:54 | 00:03:58 | something that i'm not great at |
00:03:56 | 00:04:02 | especially |
00:03:58 | 00:04:03 | menial detail work that doesn't really |
00:04:02 | 00:04:06 | line up with my giftings or my strengths |
00:04:03 | 00:04:07 | and your customers are the same they got |
00:04:06 | 00:04:10 | into business for other reasons in fact |
00:04:07 | 00:04:12 | we'll hit on like why i do what i do |
00:04:10 | 00:04:15 | because business owners have to get |
00:04:12 | 00:04:17 | sales and then execute right |
00:04:15 | 00:04:18 | and do financial stuff but getting sales |
00:04:17 | 00:04:20 | and executing usually they're really |
00:04:18 | 00:04:23 | good at executing that might be you you |
00:04:20 | 00:04:25 | might be a really great accountant but |
00:04:23 | 00:04:27 | you're really bad at understanding sales |
00:04:25 | 00:04:29 | and how to move people attract them and |
00:04:27 | 00:04:31 | have them take a step with you and once |
00:04:29 | 00:04:33 | that steps there how to have messaging |
00:04:31 | 00:04:34 | and systems so that they actually want |
00:04:33 | 00:04:35 | to close with you right that's what i |
00:04:34 | 00:04:37 | love to do and that's what we do here at |
00:04:35 | 00:04:38 | feedback crunch we'd love to help you |
00:04:37 | 00:04:40 | with that but |
00:04:38 | 00:04:41 | let me just hit on this real quick most |
00:04:40 | 00:04:42 | accountants don't make very much money |
00:04:41 | 00:04:44 | the only accountants that do are part of |
00:04:42 | 00:04:46 | a mega firm and the mega firms are |
00:04:44 | 00:04:48 | slowly deciding that wait a minute this |
00:04:46 | 00:04:49 | is kind of bad they're all moving to |
00:04:48 | 00:04:51 | this accountant model this more advisory |
00:04:49 | 00:04:52 | service model but it's not just about |
00:04:51 | 00:04:54 | advisory so i'm going to hit on real |
00:04:52 | 00:04:55 | quick what do you actually need to |
00:04:54 | 00:04:57 | provide in order to have this outsourced |
00:04:55 | 00:04:59 | account and model so i'm going to list |
00:04:57 | 00:05:00 | off everything that i think you should |
00:04:59 | 00:05:02 | include in that service we'll tok a |
00:05:00 | 00:05:03 | little bit about how much |
00:05:02 | 00:05:05 | it's worth but let's start off by |
00:05:03 | 00:05:07 | understanding two different things |
00:05:05 | 00:05:09 | number one i want to tok about the |
00:05:07 | 00:05:11 | three value propositions that you have |
00:05:09 | 00:05:13 | the first value proposition that every |
00:05:11 | 00:05:15 | business owner resonates with is you're |
00:05:13 | 00:05:17 | going to help them mitigate their taxes |
00:05:15 | 00:05:18 | pay their fair share in taxes and not a |
00:05:17 | 00:05:20 | penny more and along with that you're |
00:05:18 | 00:05:23 | going to help them build tax efficient |
00:05:20 | 00:05:24 | wealth so number one reduce the taxes |
00:05:23 | 00:05:26 | number two you're going to help them be |
00:05:24 | 00:05:29 | more efficient and productive by |
00:05:26 | 00:05:30 | and and save them time by handling |
00:05:29 | 00:05:31 | everything for them you're going to do |
00:05:30 | 00:05:33 | the bookkeeping you're going to be a |
00:05:31 | 00:05:35 | staff alternative they don't need an |
00:05:33 | 00:05:37 | accountant because they're choosing you |
00:05:35 | 00:05:39 | and your small firm right but basically |
00:05:37 | 00:05:41 | you're going to save the business owner |
00:05:39 | 00:05:43 | time and you're going to save the staff |
00:05:41 | 00:05:44 | people of the operations time and you're |
00:05:43 | 00:05:46 | potentially going to be a staff |
00:05:44 | 00:05:48 | alternative it's kind of two phases of |
00:05:46 | 00:05:49 | this business there's like single owner |
00:05:48 | 00:05:51 | guys and then folks that they're going |
00:05:49 | 00:05:53 | to need an accountant right |
00:05:51 | 00:05:55 | you will eliminate the need for more uh |
00:05:53 | 00:05:56 | staff and then the third thing is you're |
00:05:55 | 00:05:58 | gonna keep them compliant and help them |
00:05:56 | 00:05:59 | mitigate risks right you're gonna do it |
00:05:58 | 00:06:01 | better than them |
00:05:59 | 00:06:02 | you're gonna do it better than that |
00:06:01 | 00:06:04 | part-time accountant that they try and |
00:06:02 | 00:06:06 | hire you're gonna do it better and |
00:06:04 | 00:06:08 | you're gonna they're gonna rest assured |
00:06:06 | 00:06:09 | that a cpa or an accountant or a high |
00:06:08 | 00:06:10 | level professional is actually doing |
00:06:09 | 00:06:12 | this for them and then you're gonna help |
00:06:10 | 00:06:13 | them mitigate some risks right tok to |
00:06:12 | 00:06:16 | them about |
00:06:13 | 00:06:17 | insurance tok to them about entity |
00:06:16 | 00:06:18 | planning and all these different things |
00:06:17 | 00:06:20 | right |
00:06:18 | 00:06:23 | and underpinning something that you need |
00:06:20 | 00:06:25 | to come to the grips with if you want to |
00:06:23 | 00:06:27 | have a profitable firm and run this |
00:06:25 | 00:06:30 | outsourced accounting model is that |
00:06:27 | 00:06:31 | price isn't really what it's all about |
00:06:30 | 00:06:34 | in fact price is |
00:06:31 | 00:06:36 | not huge now a lot of these gurus will |
00:06:34 | 00:06:39 | tok about you need to land clients and |
00:06:36 | 00:06:41 | understand your value you need to charge |
00:06:39 | 00:06:43 | more and only work with people that |
00:06:41 | 00:06:45 | understand your value |
00:06:43 | 00:06:47 | here's my question |
00:06:45 | 00:06:48 | do you know what's valuable about what |
00:06:47 | 00:06:50 | you do |
00:06:48 | 00:06:53 | i bet you don't maybe you do that might |
00:06:50 | 00:06:54 | sound arrogant i'm sorry |
00:06:53 | 00:06:57 | there's things called value |
00:06:54 | 00:06:58 | sensitivities okay and what it is is if |
00:06:57 | 00:07:00 | you can deliver these things they |
00:06:58 | 00:07:02 | generate more value for the customer and |
00:07:00 | 00:07:04 | for business owners my dad taught me |
00:07:02 | 00:07:06 | this there's seven value sensitivities |
00:07:04 | 00:07:08 | for heavy machinery to a contractor |
00:07:06 | 00:07:10 | right but what i've kind of identified |
00:07:08 | 00:07:12 | is that there's three major value |
00:07:10 | 00:07:15 | sensitivities that will |
00:07:12 | 00:07:17 | astronomically |
00:07:15 | 00:07:18 | impact how much value you deliver to the |
00:07:17 | 00:07:19 | business owner and it's really what |
00:07:18 | 00:07:21 | resonates with them |
00:07:19 | 00:07:23 | but it's a little different than those |
00:07:21 | 00:07:25 | three right so mitigate taxes handle |
00:07:23 | 00:07:26 | everything for them and then keep them |
00:07:25 | 00:07:29 | compliant this is more of like |
00:07:26 | 00:07:31 | underpinning this is you want to help |
00:07:29 | 00:07:33 | increase productivity the number one |
00:07:31 | 00:07:34 | impact on a business is if you can |
00:07:33 | 00:07:37 | increase productivity of the business |
00:07:34 | 00:07:39 | owner and of all the staff people when |
00:07:37 | 00:07:42 | they can get more work done |
00:07:39 | 00:07:43 | because you've interacted with them |
00:07:42 | 00:07:47 | you're super valuable the second thing |
00:07:43 | 00:07:50 | is efficiency if they can reduce what it |
00:07:47 | 00:07:52 | costs them to get the same work done |
00:07:50 | 00:07:53 | that's huge and that's you they take |
00:07:52 | 00:07:55 | their dollars they either spend it on a |
00:07:53 | 00:07:58 | staff person or they spend it on you |
00:07:55 | 00:08:00 | you're going to drastikally deliver |
00:07:58 | 00:08:02 | better results because for the cost of a |
00:08:00 | 00:08:03 | staff accountant yeah they're going to |
00:08:02 | 00:08:05 | get everything the accountant does but |
00:08:03 | 00:08:07 | now they're going to get a tax guru and |
00:08:05 | 00:08:09 | that's huge then the third thing is is |
00:08:07 | 00:08:11 | tax efficiency and wealth optimization |
00:08:09 | 00:08:13 | save them taxes right this is a bottom |
00:08:11 | 00:08:16 | line write-off when you save them in |
00:08:13 | 00:08:17 | taxes it's like creating a 10x or |
00:08:16 | 00:08:19 | whatever it is for their |
00:08:17 | 00:08:22 | gross profit percent |
00:08:19 | 00:08:22 | you're going to amplify revenue for them |
00:08:22 | 00:08:25 | you're gonna |
00:08:22 | 00:08:28 | it's a huge deal for them to save in |
00:08:25 | 00:08:30 | taxes and you need to embrace that those |
00:08:28 | 00:08:32 | three things productivity efficiency and |
00:08:30 | 00:08:34 | taxes saved are going to be the biggest |
00:08:32 | 00:08:36 | things that you can pull and ultimately |
00:08:34 | 00:08:37 | if you can frame yourself up those first |
00:08:36 | 00:08:39 | two are like you being a staff |
00:08:37 | 00:08:42 | alternative and saving them time so |
00:08:39 | 00:08:44 | that's what you're going to rely on to |
00:08:42 | 00:08:45 | know that if you can resonate with that |
00:08:44 | 00:08:47 | if you can find business owners that |
00:08:45 | 00:08:48 | understand that or if you can teach that |
00:08:47 | 00:08:50 | to business owners that are maturing |
00:08:48 | 00:08:53 | into that you're going to have an |
00:08:50 | 00:08:55 | opportunity to land 500 to 2500 a month |
00:08:53 | 00:08:58 | clients and they're gonna like it now |
00:08:55 | 00:09:00 | this isn't like your you charge 11 000 |
00:08:58 | 00:09:02 | for a tax plan andrew argue stuff andrew |
00:09:00 | 00:09:03 | argue does a lot of good stuff but i |
00:09:02 | 00:09:05 | think that |
00:09:03 | 00:09:07 | i have a whole rant about why tax |
00:09:05 | 00:09:09 | savings is something |
00:09:07 | 00:09:11 | tax savings needs to fuel |
00:09:09 | 00:09:14 | productivity and efficiency you you save |
00:09:11 | 00:09:15 | taxes so that you can invest |
00:09:14 | 00:09:16 | in the accountant because what you're |
00:09:15 | 00:09:18 | gonna do is you're gonna tok about oh |
00:09:16 | 00:09:20 | i'm gonna save you six thousand dollars |
00:09:18 | 00:09:22 | this year and then you're gonna pay me |
00:09:20 | 00:09:24 | six thousand dollars it's not about |
00:09:22 | 00:09:26 | saving money right it's about mitigating |
00:09:24 | 00:09:28 | taxes over the long haul but ultimately |
00:09:26 | 00:09:30 | the tax is going to fund their future |
00:09:28 | 00:09:33 | investments their wealth building and |
00:09:30 | 00:09:35 | it's gonna fund you which then makes |
00:09:33 | 00:09:37 | them all that more productive so |
00:09:35 | 00:09:38 | let's dive right into it what's all |
00:09:37 | 00:09:41 | included in the outsourced accounting |
00:09:38 | 00:09:44 | model and this is really what it is |
00:09:41 | 00:09:46 | it's all about everything all together |
00:09:44 | 00:09:48 | not one-off right so in order to do this |
00:09:46 | 00:09:50 | business model really well you're going |
00:09:48 | 00:09:51 | to have to include all of these services |
00:09:50 | 00:09:53 | for just about everybody with the |
00:09:51 | 00:09:55 | exception of payroll whether you run |
00:09:53 | 00:09:57 | payroll for people that have employees |
00:09:55 | 00:09:59 | or not okay you'll provide payroll but |
00:09:57 | 00:10:00 | we'll get into that |
00:09:59 | 00:10:02 | the more one-off work you have the more |
00:10:00 | 00:10:04 | people that are not within this core |
00:10:02 | 00:10:06 | focus that are paying a monthly retainer |
00:10:04 | 00:10:08 | to you uh the the more difficult your |
00:10:06 | 00:10:09 | life's gonna become and you're not gonna |
00:10:08 | 00:10:11 | like it so i'm gonna move fast through |
00:10:09 | 00:10:13 | this and i'm telling you take notes i've |
00:10:11 | 00:10:15 | got an artikle you can see it underneath |
00:10:13 | 00:10:17 | you'll see everything that's there |
00:10:15 | 00:10:18 | but here's what's all included so all |
00:10:17 | 00:10:19 | the clients you're going to get their |
00:10:18 | 00:10:20 | books you're going to get their |
00:10:19 | 00:10:22 | accounting you're going to set it up |
00:10:20 | 00:10:23 | right so number one you're going to get |
00:10:22 | 00:10:25 | those chart of accounts you're going to |
00:10:23 | 00:10:28 | set up that accounting and all of the |
00:10:25 | 00:10:29 | accounts to a standard that is amazing |
00:10:28 | 00:10:31 | and then you're going to do all the |
00:10:29 | 00:10:33 | backup bookkeeping now when you first |
00:10:31 | 00:10:34 | get a client implementation is heavy |
00:10:33 | 00:10:35 | right implementation and backup |
00:10:34 | 00:10:37 | bookkeeping might need to have an |
00:10:35 | 00:10:39 | additional charge to it so you might say |
00:10:37 | 00:10:42 | hey to work with us where i want you to |
00:10:39 | 00:10:44 | be at is 800 a month and it looks like |
00:10:42 | 00:10:46 | we have a significant amount of |
00:10:44 | 00:10:47 | implementation we've got to make you an |
00:10:46 | 00:10:50 | s corp we have to get all your books |
00:10:47 | 00:10:53 | caught up and that's going to cost |
00:10:50 | 00:10:54 | 3 500 so it's going to be 3 500 then 800 |
00:10:53 | 00:10:56 | a month to get you going that might |
00:10:54 | 00:10:58 | sound a lot but i'm telling you number |
00:10:56 | 00:11:00 | one get everything set up fresh clean |
00:10:58 | 00:11:01 | slate awesome in fact usually i wouldn't |
00:11:00 | 00:11:04 | even get access to the books man you |
00:11:01 | 00:11:05 | might as well start over in most cases |
00:11:04 | 00:11:06 | uh this the next thing that you're gonna |
00:11:05 | 00:11:09 | do is you're gonna take an in-depth |
00:11:06 | 00:11:11 | snapshot of their financial picture they |
00:11:09 | 00:11:13 | might be hesitant on that their tax |
00:11:11 | 00:11:15 | picture get the tax returns get the last |
00:11:13 | 00:11:16 | two or three tax returns read and figure |
00:11:15 | 00:11:17 | out what they're doing partikularly with |
00:11:16 | 00:11:19 | the s corp and then the accounting |
00:11:17 | 00:11:20 | system you have to peer into the |
00:11:19 | 00:11:22 | bookkeeping and accounting system to |
00:11:20 | 00:11:24 | find out how big of a mess it is and how |
00:11:22 | 00:11:26 | frequent things are and you just need to |
00:11:24 | 00:11:27 | understand that no matter what |
00:11:26 | 00:11:29 | off of that you're going to create a |
00:11:27 | 00:11:31 | comprehensive tax plan that addresses |
00:11:29 | 00:11:33 | taxes in that year and over the long |
00:11:31 | 00:11:34 | haul to help them build tax efficient |
00:11:33 | 00:11:36 | wealth really what you're trying to look |
00:11:34 | 00:11:37 | at here is |
00:11:36 | 00:11:38 | again |
00:11:37 | 00:11:40 | the strategies are real estate |
00:11:38 | 00:11:42 | retirement plans in the s corp that's |
00:11:40 | 00:11:44 | the big hair or the big string you're |
00:11:42 | 00:11:46 | looking to pull that will really and |
00:11:44 | 00:11:48 | you're looking at can they maximize that |
00:11:46 | 00:11:50 | escort that's language that i recommend |
00:11:48 | 00:11:52 | using if you a lot of people a lot of |
00:11:50 | 00:11:53 | accountants come alongside a business |
00:11:52 | 00:11:54 | owner tell them to be an s corp they're |
00:11:53 | 00:11:57 | like well your reasonable seller you |
00:11:54 | 00:11:59 | made 120 g's well i don't think you |
00:11:57 | 00:12:01 | should go lower in 110 because a lot of |
00:11:59 | 00:12:02 | real estate agents make 110 000 say what |
00:12:01 | 00:12:04 | are you toking about help them be |
00:12:02 | 00:12:07 | aggressive for crying a lot so you're |
00:12:04 | 00:12:09 | gonna you're gonna establish a tax plan |
00:12:07 | 00:12:11 | for them for that year and moving |
00:12:09 | 00:12:12 | forward okay and then what you're going |
00:12:11 | 00:12:15 | to do is you're going to do all the work |
00:12:12 | 00:12:18 | necessary to set them up file the the |
00:12:15 | 00:12:20 | what is it 2553 get the s-corp set up |
00:12:18 | 00:12:22 | convert them to an s-corp set up the |
00:12:20 | 00:12:24 | payroll system for them do all the stuff |
00:12:22 | 00:12:25 | for them make their life easy okay |
00:12:24 | 00:12:27 | they're going to love you |
00:12:25 | 00:12:28 | you have to do a little bit of like |
00:12:27 | 00:12:30 | coaching them what you're all doing and |
00:12:28 | 00:12:32 | helping them understand the value but |
00:12:30 | 00:12:35 | then you're going to keep their books up |
00:12:32 | 00:12:37 | to date at a very high level right do |
00:12:35 | 00:12:39 | amazing bookkeeping services make sure |
00:12:37 | 00:12:41 | that they're closed at least quarterly |
00:12:39 | 00:12:43 | every month they should be closed up and |
00:12:41 | 00:12:44 | just stay on top of that man in fact |
00:12:43 | 00:12:45 | what we always recommend is take the |
00:12:44 | 00:12:47 | month and you'll mark which days you're |
00:12:45 | 00:12:48 | going to go in and clean up which books |
00:12:47 | 00:12:50 | and have a system to that then you're |
00:12:48 | 00:12:52 | going to set them up on the best payroll |
00:12:50 | 00:12:54 | system i tell one of the things i |
00:12:52 | 00:12:56 | recommend is that you choose your |
00:12:54 | 00:12:58 | cloud-based accounting system you choose |
00:12:56 | 00:13:00 | the payroll system |
00:12:58 | 00:13:01 | and you force everybody to get on it |
00:13:00 | 00:13:02 | like there's no hey when you come with |
00:13:01 | 00:13:04 | us you're gonna get rid of the other |
00:13:02 | 00:13:05 | thing you're gonna get you're gonna get |
00:13:04 | 00:13:07 | set up here payroll can be a beast with |
00:13:05 | 00:13:09 | that the goal in payroll could be |
00:13:07 | 00:13:11 | there's multiple parts here number one |
00:13:09 | 00:13:13 | what you're going to do is is the |
00:13:11 | 00:13:15 | and i'll get into this |
00:13:13 | 00:13:17 | we'll tok about this in a second but |
00:13:15 | 00:13:19 | payroll you for sure just have wholesale |
00:13:17 | 00:13:20 | payroll so get a relationship with adp |
00:13:19 | 00:13:22 | paycheck so you can use intuit you can |
00:13:20 | 00:13:23 | use gusto whatever payroll system you |
00:13:22 | 00:13:26 | want you're going to provide wholesale |
00:13:23 | 00:13:27 | payroll right at minimum you provide |
00:13:26 | 00:13:29 | good customer service to make sure |
00:13:27 | 00:13:30 | things that are set up right at medium |
00:13:29 | 00:13:32 | level payroll service that you can |
00:13:30 | 00:13:33 | provide you're going to help them do new |
00:13:32 | 00:13:36 | contractors so if they have 1099 |
00:13:33 | 00:13:38 | contractors instead of filling on a w-9 |
00:13:36 | 00:13:40 | have them contact you and now you get to |
00:13:38 | 00:13:42 | make that easier for them i got a new |
00:13:40 | 00:13:45 | employee connect them with your tax firm |
00:13:42 | 00:13:46 | and get that new employee set up right |
00:13:45 | 00:13:47 | so you're going to set up the payroll |
00:13:46 | 00:13:49 | you're going to help them and then at |
00:13:47 | 00:13:51 | the most so you're either just customer |
00:13:49 | 00:13:52 | service customer service with new |
00:13:51 | 00:13:54 | employees and stuff like that or you |
00:13:52 | 00:13:56 | could be the one that actually runs the |
00:13:54 | 00:13:58 | payroll for them now the advantage of |
00:13:56 | 00:13:59 | that is that you're really stiky the |
00:13:58 | 00:14:01 | disadvantage of that is if you screw |
00:13:59 | 00:14:03 | that up now their employee can't pay |
00:14:01 | 00:14:04 | their mark their mortgage it's a big |
00:14:03 | 00:14:06 | deal |
00:14:04 | 00:14:07 | zero room for |
00:14:06 | 00:14:08 | margin for error when it comes to |
00:14:07 | 00:14:09 | payroll so |
00:14:08 | 00:14:11 | that's that's the thing that you're |
00:14:09 | 00:14:12 | gonna do is you're gonna help them with |
00:14:11 | 00:14:13 | payroll |
00:14:12 | 00:14:15 | then you'll provide monthly and |
00:14:13 | 00:14:17 | quarterly reports with real feedback |
00:14:15 | 00:14:18 | right you're doing the books provide |
00:14:17 | 00:14:20 | monthly feedback |
00:14:18 | 00:14:22 | then you're gonna and this is the |
00:14:20 | 00:14:24 | biggest one guys |
00:14:22 | 00:14:27 | you're going to help them |
00:14:24 | 00:14:29 | pay in their taxes according to your tax |
00:14:27 | 00:14:31 | plan throughout the year by using the |
00:14:29 | 00:14:33 | payroll system and what you're trying to |
00:14:31 | 00:14:35 | do and this i'm telling you you got it |
00:14:33 | 00:14:37 | you have to understand this |
00:14:35 | 00:14:40 | you're gonna take away all of the |
00:14:37 | 00:14:42 | surprises and you're gonna help them pay |
00:14:40 | 00:14:44 | in according to the taxes so that they |
00:14:42 | 00:14:45 | don't have that anxiety towards the end |
00:14:44 | 00:14:48 | of the year okay |
00:14:45 | 00:14:49 | you might not know this accountants but |
00:14:48 | 00:14:50 | every business owner come about quarter |
00:14:49 | 00:14:52 | three in the back of our head we're |
00:14:50 | 00:14:54 | always like i wonder if i'm paying |
00:14:52 | 00:14:57 | inappropriately but most of us that are |
00:14:54 | 00:15:00 | not engaged in tax law especially when |
00:14:57 | 00:15:02 | you add in an s corp we don't know are |
00:15:00 | 00:15:05 | we gonna owe 5 000 |
00:15:02 | 00:15:06 | am i going to get a 10 000 check you |
00:15:05 | 00:15:07 | know you add in some of this stuff from |
00:15:06 | 00:15:09 | the |
00:15:07 | 00:15:12 | different administrations you know |
00:15:09 | 00:15:15 | we have no idea there's so much anxiety |
00:15:12 | 00:15:17 | as you're doing our year-end taxes it |
00:15:15 | 00:15:20 | drives us nuts it hurts marriages it |
00:15:17 | 00:15:22 | hurts relationships it eats at people |
00:15:20 | 00:15:25 | and ultimately it can cause gigantik |
00:15:22 | 00:15:27 | financial bombs right we know all of us |
00:15:25 | 00:15:29 | have been on the wrong end of owing more |
00:15:27 | 00:15:30 | than we can afford and putting on a tax |
00:15:29 | 00:15:32 | plan and |
00:15:30 | 00:15:34 | punting as far as you possibly can take |
00:15:32 | 00:15:37 | out some of that |
00:15:34 | 00:15:39 | mystery and provide peace of mind by the |
00:15:37 | 00:15:42 | second they come with you put them in |
00:15:39 | 00:15:44 | and use the payroll system to pay in |
00:15:42 | 00:15:46 | their withholding to help them end |
00:15:44 | 00:15:49 | without a tax return |
00:15:46 | 00:15:51 | and not have a tax bomb you do that and |
00:15:49 | 00:15:52 | you communicate that well in your |
00:15:51 | 00:15:54 | meeting you're going to land good |
00:15:52 | 00:15:55 | clients because that's a huge one now |
00:15:54 | 00:15:57 | before the year end you're going to help |
00:15:55 | 00:15:59 | them make tax mitigation decisions and |
00:15:57 | 00:16:00 | proactively help them with planning |
00:15:59 | 00:16:02 | should they buy something should they |
00:16:00 | 00:16:03 | invest should they you know do you buy |
00:16:02 | 00:16:06 | that new |
00:16:03 | 00:16:08 | benefits plan you know what do you do do |
00:16:06 | 00:16:10 | you make the profit share contribution |
00:16:08 | 00:16:12 | to everybody's sep ira but you do that |
00:16:10 | 00:16:14 | before the year end and that's a huge |
00:16:12 | 00:16:16 | difference every other tax and |
00:16:14 | 00:16:18 | accounting firm it's it's they're only |
00:16:16 | 00:16:20 | getting help at the end of the year and |
00:16:18 | 00:16:22 | you can't do anything there and most |
00:16:20 | 00:16:24 | small businesses are in that model i'm |
00:16:22 | 00:16:25 | telling you most of them are not getting |
00:16:24 | 00:16:27 | this proactive stuff then you're going |
00:16:25 | 00:16:29 | to close out the books at the year end |
00:16:27 | 00:16:30 | you're going to perform high levels of |
00:16:29 | 00:16:33 | your end reporting to them help them |
00:16:30 | 00:16:35 | understand year over year and as you do |
00:16:33 | 00:16:37 | this you'll see year over year you can |
00:16:35 | 00:16:38 | really help them gauge |
00:16:37 | 00:16:40 | their ratios and you can help them |
00:16:38 | 00:16:42 | understand their business then you're |
00:16:40 | 00:16:43 | going to make the year in tax |
00:16:42 | 00:16:45 | season a breeze you're going to do their |
00:16:43 | 00:16:46 | business taxes you're going to do their |
00:16:45 | 00:16:47 | personal taxes and because you've been |
00:16:46 | 00:16:49 | doing the bookkeeping and all the |
00:16:47 | 00:16:52 | accounting and tax and everything it's |
00:16:49 | 00:16:53 | super easy you don't have to work that |
00:16:52 | 00:16:56 | hard they just got to get you the |
00:16:53 | 00:16:57 | documents make their life easy and just |
00:16:56 | 00:16:59 | handle all those tax returns for |
00:16:57 | 00:17:00 | everybody and then you want to provide |
00:16:59 | 00:17:03 | wealth building |
00:17:00 | 00:17:05 | and some financial planning type advice |
00:17:03 | 00:17:06 | usually they're a little hesitant to |
00:17:05 | 00:17:08 | that because there's so many people |
00:17:06 | 00:17:10 | slinking around trying to get them for |
00:17:08 | 00:17:11 | that um but i'm telling you you should |
00:17:10 | 00:17:12 | be advising them and then helping them |
00:17:11 | 00:17:14 | with |
00:17:12 | 00:17:16 | risk mitigation so here's what i mean |
00:17:14 | 00:17:18 | with those last two be dave ramsey for |
00:17:16 | 00:17:20 | them right help them save up cash help |
00:17:18 | 00:17:21 | them invest get them involved in |
00:17:20 | 00:17:23 | compounding interest |
00:17:21 | 00:17:26 | right |
00:17:23 | 00:17:28 | have them open a simple ira or a solo |
00:17:26 | 00:17:30 | 401k if they if they don't have any |
00:17:28 | 00:17:31 | employees or any statutory employees |
00:17:30 | 00:17:34 | meaning that it's all family members and |
00:17:31 | 00:17:36 | executives have them open it's called |
00:17:34 | 00:17:39 | the individual k from from vanguard now |
00:17:36 | 00:17:40 | this is not legal advice right um but |
00:17:39 | 00:17:43 | what you can do there is they can do up |
00:17:40 | 00:17:45 | to the 25 of their salaries or 25 of the |
00:17:43 | 00:17:46 | schedule see as a profit share |
00:17:45 | 00:17:48 | contribution which essentially |
00:17:46 | 00:17:50 | essentially |
00:17:48 | 00:17:51 | avoids self-employment taxes and they |
00:17:50 | 00:17:53 | can do a regular |
00:17:51 | 00:17:55 | contribution |
00:17:53 | 00:17:57 | a regular 401k contribution of either |
00:17:55 | 00:18:00 | roth or traditional up to the limits you |
00:17:57 | 00:18:02 | could do like 18 000 in roth on one side |
00:18:00 | 00:18:04 | if you wanted to which is non-deductible |
00:18:02 | 00:18:06 | and they could do a profit share |
00:18:04 | 00:18:09 | contribution of up to 25 of their |
00:18:06 | 00:18:10 | schedule c or up to |
00:18:09 | 00:18:13 | the |
00:18:10 | 00:18:16 | 25 of their s corp salary |
00:18:13 | 00:18:17 | and not to exceed i think it's 58 000 |
00:18:16 | 00:18:19 | this year you got to check but there's a |
00:18:17 | 00:18:20 | contribution limits for set buyers and |
00:18:19 | 00:18:22 | solo 401ks long story short you could |
00:18:20 | 00:18:23 | put a ton of money away for them and |
00:18:22 | 00:18:26 | they got to have compounding interest |
00:18:23 | 00:18:28 | let them take advantage of 3m and |
00:18:26 | 00:18:30 | apple's ability to create profits and |
00:18:28 | 00:18:31 | let them partikipate in compounding |
00:18:30 | 00:18:33 | interest |
00:18:31 | 00:18:34 | and lastly just remember that when you |
00:18:33 | 00:18:35 | do all this s-corp guess what happens |
00:18:34 | 00:18:38 | when they're ready to retire their |
00:18:35 | 00:18:39 | social security benefits are small |
00:18:38 | 00:18:40 | hopefully you've helped them build a ton |
00:18:39 | 00:18:42 | of wealth throughout the years and it |
00:18:40 | 00:18:44 | doesn't matter but you know get them |
00:18:42 | 00:18:47 | involved start saving up to buy and hold |
00:18:44 | 00:18:49 | real estate uh get them involved in |
00:18:47 | 00:18:50 | different asset classes right get them |
00:18:49 | 00:18:52 | involved in different types of |
00:18:50 | 00:18:55 | businesses help be the financial |
00:18:52 | 00:18:56 | quarterback to help them go and and i'll |
00:18:55 | 00:18:59 | end with this guys |
00:18:56 | 00:19:00 | if you do this and it's all in one |
00:18:59 | 00:19:02 | your clients are going to love you |
00:19:00 | 00:19:03 | you're going to love your business it's |
00:19:02 | 00:19:05 | more meaningful work you're moving the |
00:19:03 | 00:19:06 | needle for these people in some serious |
00:19:05 | 00:19:08 | ways |
00:19:06 | 00:19:11 | and we know how to help you get there we |
00:19:08 | 00:19:13 | know how to help you get to that 25 to |
00:19:11 | 00:19:15 | 50 clients and then to that 100 clients |
00:19:13 | 00:19:16 | if you want to grow we can help you |
00:19:15 | 00:19:19 | build a million dollar practike very |
00:19:16 | 00:19:21 | seriously by using digital marketing |
00:19:19 | 00:19:22 | video marketing and a combination of |
00:19:21 | 00:19:24 | remarketing |
00:19:22 | 00:19:26 | and we do all the writing for you we |
00:19:24 | 00:19:29 | make this so easy and again it's 3 500 |
00:19:26 | 00:19:31 | 500 or 7 500 to set up the different |
00:19:29 | 00:19:34 | machinery and i'm telling you you get |
00:19:31 | 00:19:36 | set up with our 7 500 setup i guarantee |
00:19:34 | 00:19:37 | you i'll get you clients in the first |
00:19:36 | 00:19:39 | month or two that will offset that cost |
00:19:37 | 00:19:40 | so quickly you won't even know what |
00:19:39 | 00:19:42 | happened and there were clients you |
00:19:40 | 00:19:45 | wouldn't have gotten otherwise |
00:19:42 | 00:19:47 | god bless good luck like and subscribe |
00:19:45 | 00:19:49 | if you're on youtube if if |
00:19:47 | 00:19:51 | you downloaded this guide |
00:19:49 | 00:19:53 | i'd love the opportunity to help you |
00:19:51 | 00:19:55 | again we got a small cool little team |
00:19:53 | 00:19:57 | here it's myself daniel our full-time |
00:19:55 | 00:19:59 | web designer we've got byron our video |
00:19:57 | 00:20:01 | photo and graphic guy we've got heather |
00:19:59 | 00:20:02 | our project manager we've got a writer |
00:20:01 | 00:20:04 | that we're working with and we're hiring |
00:20:02 | 00:20:06 | another one here we'd love the |
00:20:04 | 00:20:07 | opportunity to set you up right check |
00:20:06 | 00:20:10 | out everything else that we have in |
00:20:07 | 00:20:12 | terms of what we do to actually attract |
00:20:10 | 00:20:14 | this client close this client and have a |
00:20:12 | 00:20:18 | system that works while you sleep so |
00:20:14 | 00:20:18 | good luck and god bless |
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